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Memo: don't mess with JC - Josh 126

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You're simply the best,
better than all the rest...

Oct 31, 2011 at 1:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterPharos

Love the interpretation, especially the gap in the gormless grin. Muller may choose to spit out this 'toon like a broken tooth but I hardly think he (or Judy) can complain.

Oct 31, 2011 at 1:33 PM | Unregistered CommenterRichard Drake

But see JC's post on her recent meeting with Muller - she finds she has little to differ with him on. The WSJ article is, however, another kettle of fishiness.

Oct 31, 2011 at 1:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterGlenn Haldane

Daily Planet Headline: "Muller takes a decline in the third: Curry is HOT!"

Oct 31, 2011 at 2:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterSnotrocket

that's the most convincing jaundiced eye I've ever seen in a cartoon. Bravo

Oct 31, 2011 at 2:09 PM | Unregistered Commenterj ferguson

It looks like Muller has said sweet nothings to Judy.

Oct 31, 2011 at 2:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

Glen Haldane:

But see JC's post on her recent meeting with Muller - she finds she has little to differ with him on.

Thanks for the link - I find her account convincing. It doesn't clear Muller by any yardstick given the arguments advanced on WUWT and elsewhere. Going to the press and then complaining about the press is, at best, more naive than is appropriate for a senior scientist and, at worst, cynical. But she raises very fair points that oblige one to revisit the story.

Whatever, I agree that this is Josh's best. Love it.

Oct 31, 2011 at 3:10 PM | Unregistered CommenterDaveB

You get the feeling that we are dealing with a stereo-typical teenage lovers tiff here.

A promise unfulfilled - an angry response - soothing words - an embrace - the sun shines once more.

More Marx brothers than Shakespeare I would think.

Oct 31, 2011 at 4:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

Ha Ha, loved it Josh, first genuine belly laugh of the day - thank you!

Oct 31, 2011 at 5:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterAthelstan

Nice one Josh

Oct 31, 2011 at 6:41 PM | Unregistered Commenterfenbeagle

Hmmm, I did picture JC as more of a bare knuckle fighter. Maybe she has a horseshoe in the gloves.

Oct 31, 2011 at 7:02 PM | Unregistered CommenterArgusfreak

Marvelous, cheers me up no end after a shit day at work!

Oct 31, 2011 at 7:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterAdam Gallon


Hmmm, I did picture JC as more of a bare knuckle fighter. Maybe she has a horseshoe in the gloves.

I was expecting a broken hockey stick.

Oct 31, 2011 at 7:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterDon Pablo de la Sierra

Having read JC's responses on her site I get the feeling that she has been very niave. She seems to have been taken in by Muller's somewhat shallow explinations.
Sad really but I respect her work.

Oct 31, 2011 at 7:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterStephen Richards

Best one ever!

Oct 31, 2011 at 9:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterFred blogs


You just get better and better mate!

Oct 31, 2011 at 11:54 PM | Unregistered CommenterDung

This is how it was spun in NZ. The printed version of the Dominion Post had the headline "Former sceptic now a believer"

A prominent physicist and sceptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held sceptic theories in analysing the data. He was spurred to action because of "Climategate," a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.

from the NZ Dominion Post

My own take on this and the whole BEST project is ... propaganda from the alarmists.

Muller claims now to have stated out as a sceptic - but he has no track record of scepticism and with his daughter runs an enviro-lobby organisation: Muller and Associates

From their home page...

Helping governments build energy strategies that are right for them

Government energy policy is increasingly confounded by the complex interplay of international treaties, fluctuating prices, declining reserves, and a rapidly growing array of technological developments. Energy policy involves economics, energy security, and climate change. For some initiatives, these issues may be addressed simultaneously. For others the potential solutions might be in direct conflict. Coal, as one example, is abundant in some countries, but it is also a strong emitter of carbon dioxide.

GreenGov is a service offered by Muller & Associates...


Any claim to be an honest broker is a sham.

Nov 1, 2011 at 3:39 AM | Unregistered CommenterJack Hughes


Same story in the NZ Herald. It's taken straight from AP, the left-wing French 'news' service. The NZ editors either did not have the wit to consider the deviousness behind this or they just don't care. No comments allowed, so the sham of Muller as a now-convinced 'sceptic' cannot even be raised.

Perhaps write to the editor. I could under my real John Hancock but at least you are open about your identity. Go on.

Nov 1, 2011 at 3:57 AM | Unregistered CommenterGixxerboy

Muller has been a greenie since 2009 and probably longer. His "conversion" in front of the cameras is even worse than Jimmy Swaggart's. Yes it's as bad as that.

Nov 1, 2011 at 4:02 AM | Unregistered CommenterJack Hughes

@Jack Hughes Nov 1, 2011 at 4:02 AM

This is how it was spun in NZ. The printed version of the Dominion Post had the headline "Former sceptic now a believer"

The headlines I've seen have been much the same, and I've been trying to figure out where this "Muller the skeptic" meme might have originated. Certainly not from anything in Muller's written record. Consider the following:

Let me be clear. My own reading of the literature and study of paleoclimate suggests strongly that carbon dioxide from burning of fossil fuels will prove to be the greatest pollutant of human history. It is likely to have severe and detrimental effects on global climate.

That was Muller in December 2003 - and they don't grow 'em much greener than that, do they?!

My guess is that his support of McIntyre & McKitrick - and being quite vocal about his disdain for the hockey-stick tricks - is what has earned him the sobriquet of "climate skeptic" amongst the climatologically correct.

OTOH, perhaps it was the blurb on his website for his 2010 book The Instant Physicist, which includes:

Learn why wine is required to be radioactive to be legal, and why you don’t want the greenhouse effect to end.

But then again, Muller has also written:

In most fields of science, researchers who express the most self-doubt and who understate their conclusions are the ones that are most respected. Scientists regard with disdain those who play their conclusions to the press. [emphasis added -hro]

Sure doesn't sound like the Muller we've been hearing from for the last few weeks, does it?!

The most charitable description I can think of, at this point, would be "Muller the chameleon"..

[sources for the above quotes ... and more ... at Will the real Richard Muller please stand up]

P.S. Josh ...Great cartoon (although I wish Judith had taken a tougher stance earlier ... and stuck with it!)

Nov 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM | Unregistered Commenterhro001

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