Just a bit busy

I'm a bit tied up with other stuff right now. Normal service should resume in a day or two.

Comments

[Rick Bradford]

Well, I guess there's no hurry.

According to NOAA figures over the last 40 years, the indication is that CO2 levels will not double until 2160.

If humanity cannot found a way to deal with a minor temperature rise over the next 150 years, then perhaps we deserve to be in trouble.

(And that assumes you believe in the greenhouse effect).

Just think how far humanity has come since 1861....

[Mike Jackson]

Bit less of this common sense, Bradford, if you don't mind!

[ZedsDeadBed]

"(And that assumes you believe in the greenhouse effect)."
Oct 16, 2011 at 9:14 AM | Rick Bradford

Wow. This really is a blog for people who deny basic science.

I'll give you a clue Rick, without the greenhouse effect, we'd be over 30C colder than we are now. We've known about it for over a century. Your suggestion that it may not be a genuine scientific phenomenom, shows a total lack of understanding of, and respect for, scientific principles.

[Cumbrian Lad]

DNFTT

It would be nice Rick if the many solvable problems that kill people everyday had the same resources and focus that the ever-so-slow drift in temperatures does. It's shocking to find people who campaign for 'peace and justice' in the vaguest of terms but don't turn a hand to help their neighbours in urgent need.

[ZedsDeadBed]

"DNFTT"
Oct 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM | Cumbrian Lad

*sighs*

Very tedious this, and rather desperate. However, I've noticed how people here are keenest to try and quell dissent, when I've struck a really solid blow. Like the people on this blog who try and deny basic physics, like the properties of greenhouse gases.

And you all pretend you're sceptical........

[Phil D]

DNFTT

[breath of fresh]

Not biting.

Past form says the Troll will try to distrupt while Bish is absent, ignoring is best policy regardless of the wailing.

[j ferguson]

I like having a resident troll.

[Mike Jackson]

Cumbrian Lad
The whole of sub-Saharan Africa could be provided with proper drainage and clean drinking water for less than half the annual cost of implementing Kyoto.
That, combined with irrigation and a more robust attitude by Western countries to the corruption that is endemic in many states, would do more than anything else to raise the standard of living which in turn would go a long way to reduce the birth rate (which seems to be what the neo-Malthusians, who are about as right on the subject as their hero was, seem mostly to be concerned with).
There are some charities (Water Aid is a good example) which are making a practical difference on the ground. There are others which are more concerned with their own image than with actively helping the poor (patronising them, yes; helping them, no) and yet others whose ethos is blatantly racist (though they would deny it, of course) and who use global warming and over-population as excuses to keep other races, most Africans especially, in a state of dependence and poverty.
They are the cheerleaders for the alarmist tendency and along with their useful idiots are probably a greater threat to mankind as a whole than a hypothetical two-degree increase in global mean temperature some time in the next 100+ years.

[ZedsDeadBed]

"They are the cheerleaders for the alarmist tendency and along with their useful idiots are probably a greater threat to mankind as a whole than a hypothetical two-degree increase in global mean temperature some time in the next 100+ years."
Oct 16, 2011 at 2:26 PM | Mike Jackson

Number of sources provided for outrageous claims in comment? Zero.

I'd suggest a new tagline for this blog:

Bishop Hill - for people who are unable to differentiate fact from opinion

[Don Pablo de la Sierra]

ZDB

Wow. This really is a blog for people who deny basic science.

Speak for yourself, dear.

[Don Pablo de la Sierra]

ZBD
I'd suggest a new tagline for this blog:

Bishop Hill - for people who are unable to differentiate fact from opinion

It would appear so. Thank you for a very hearty laugh to start my day.

[Peter Walsh]

I like it when the Bish away and we can get upto all kinds of mischief...!

Communion wine anyone?

[simpleseekeraftertruth]

Green whine anyone?

[Peter Walsh]

And todays special offer is an insight into how those little ntrynios, eh Nutrenos, eh try Neutrinos can manage to get some speed up.

See WUWT:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/10/15/its-all-relative-superluminal-neutrino-discovery-explained/

[Cumbrian Lad]

Mike

Yes, Water Aid is a great example of practical and effective provision, an enabling rather than an interfering intervention. It's a very good example of simple, thoroughly understood technology put in place quickly and cheaply to maximise public wellbeing and promoting self reliance. As you say, for a fraction the price of Kyoto, which has helped how many poor people to develop their prospects?

[Mike Jackson]

Cumbrian Lad
Well, we all know the answer to that last question, don't we?
It's a shame that the loudest voices have been the alarmists shrieking their incessant doom and gloom scenarios. If only politicians had listened to the real science and concerned themselves with adaptation (which the human race has always been good at) instead of pretending that there is any realistic chance of actually preventing global warming (assuming that as much of it is as anthropogenic as the doom-mongers would like us to believe which is far from proven) then we might not be throwing of billions of pounds world wide into a futile bottomless pit.
However ....

[Don Pablo de la Sierra]

Peter Walsh

And todays special offer is an insight into how those little ntrynios, eh Nutrenos, eh try Neutrinos can manage to get some speed up.

I haven't spent the time to deeply analyze what he wrote, but my first take is he missed that fact that the GPS depends on Einstein's theory to work.

GPS clocks

There is another explanation given in fairly simple terms by Neil Ashby

Oddly, the best mathematical presentation I found is in -- shudder -- Wikipedia

But of course, perhaps ZBD will give us a clearer insight.

Still, it is important to dig through all of this dispassionately and carefully. The caution taken by CERN in their announcement is the way it is suppose to be done.

[Peter Walsh]

Don,

Thanks for the above comment. I will follow up your leads.

On the subject of "That Creature" to whom you refer, well my antipathy to it is well documented on the Bishop's blog.

As I said before, it contributes absolutely nothing here, unless you count negativity as a contribution.

I still recite to myself, whenever I see it add comments, the following:

We don't need it,
It needs US.

[andyscrase]

This thread seems to have degenerated into a troll baiting session again. Not good for the Bish if he is busy.

Can't we talk about Y2K or something?

[Peter Walsh]

Go to Jonova, great cartoon by a cartoonist who has come out of retirement.

[TheBigYinJames]

It wouldn't surprise me if Zed actually posts the stupid "greenhouse effect isn't real" posts him/herself so that he can then get all huffy about it and claim every poster on the site agrees with it. It's a well known tactic amongst the bereft. The running of sockpuppets to agree with. Very sad.

[Scots Renewables]

Bullying Zed again I see. How uncivilised.

[Shub]

A comment at WUWT on the Realclimate server being down:

Maybe their proxy server is upside down.

:)