Sunday
Jan092011
by 
Bishop Hill
Bishop Hill Greenery BC
More evidence that greens are in retreat, with candidates for the premier's job in British Columbia sounding distinctly cool on the idea of ever-increasing green taxes.
If there was any doubt that the climate-change push is in retreat, have a look at the race in British Columbia to replace outgoing Liberal Premier Gordon Campbell.
Candidates for the premier's job are raising questions about whether the province should rethink its climate-change program, one of the most aggressive in North America.
It's the first positive sign for business that B.C. is not going to continue to strike out on its own with environmental regulation and put large sectors of its economy at a severe disadvantage.
Reader Comments (18)
Sanity setting in? Here we have Republicans challenging the EPA and now this!
Any chance, in the next U.K. election, we can import some politico's? The lot we have are brain dead, "Follow Brussels" green nutters with relatives in the wind farm scams!
One can only hope...
We don't need to import them. We just need to elect the ones we already have.
UKIP has already got the message and Oldham and Saddleworth is next week.
Fads die quickly and AGW was just another fad like beanie babies. So what's next? Nat Geo is focusing its efforts this year on the population explosion. Seems a lot more reasonable than the old AGW hoax.
I think our politicians are beginning to see the way the tide's moving. At a recent meeting locally organised by the resident climate alarmist the MP came along, obviously ready to press the flesh with the assembled masses, and make greeny reassuring noises. There were a total of 28 people there, including speakers and organisers, and most of those asking questions were distinctly lukewarm to cold. The MP seemed surprised and thoughtful, and very hesitant to take almost any line at all!
'The MP seemed surprised and thoughtful, and very hesitant to take almost any line at all!'
This is of course SOP for MPs these days, until they are sure what head office wants them to say - and, even then, they tend only to commit in the privacy/safety of Westminster, far from their constituents! Funny thing is I am sure I was brought up on the idea that we have a representative democracy, i.e. they are supposed to represent OUR views, whilst in practice they just want to tell us what we should be thinking.
Remember people
'Seagull management' has landed
This being my neck of the woods, it is indeed a wonderful idea. BC is Canada's La La Land, the nirvana for greenies & progressives - David Suzuki lives but a few blocks away. For anyone here to even suggest that global warming is a con draws nasty looks.
There will be great sadness here when the reality of the con job finally sinks in. That will last about three days and then the next great hairy scary greenie idea will rise from the enviro marketing department to give them something to worry about and give meaning to their lives.
See - I'm asking nicely.
In British Columbia, Premier Gordon Campbell's "green" agenda was shallow and opportunistic in the first place. He used it as cover to give favourable energy purchase rates to run-of-river power developers who have an influential lobby. It provided final justification for proceeding with the 900 MW Site C project on the Peace River that had been held up for decades by the environmental lobby. He also needed a "green" cover to proceed with the Gateway Project, which includes massive road and bridge building in the Lower Mainland.
As an amusing aside, the left-leaning opposition party (NDP) voted against the carbon tax when it was brought forward in the house.
I think British Columbia is a good example of how climate change is used shamelessly by politicians to further their own agendas and look cool while they do it.
Ian E
I never formally studied British Constitution (it actually was an available subject when I was in school) but I think the MP is elected to represent the constituency by using his own conscience/principles rather than actually reflect the views of his constituents. ie He's not elected to express the majority view, but selected by constituents as a person able to make decisions on their behalf, and in their interest (in his judgement). I may be wrong, but that's my understanding (and I'm talking about the UK Parliament here obviously, BC may have a different approach.
All
I have removed some trolling and the responses to it. Thanks to all who tried to keep a lid on things - I have removed your efforts too as these no longer made sense with the trolling deleted.
Fads die quickly and AGW was just another fad like beanie babies. So what's next? Nat Geo is focusing its efforts this year on the population explosion. Seems a lot more reasonable than the old AGW hoax.
Jan 9, 2011 at 2:01 PM | Redbone
Yes i just read that new nat geo and it was very telling that all countries or should i say 95% will have a drop in births after this little spat that still comes from us baby boomers. But i have to say I really don't see how stopping Africia from moveing forward with the rest of us is going to help as we all know teach a woman how to read and the birth rate goes down to 2.1 or lower per couple go figure!!!!
I agreed with the primary imposition of the carbon tax. It was offset with a drop in our personnal tax rates so fell naturally into my desire to see consumption taxes as the real backbone of the taxing hierachy. But the last bump, and the next ones' coming, do not have the same tax implications.
Also, as I have since purchased a piece pf property, that I may retire too, in the provinces' interior, I now have first hand knowledge of just how unfair this tax will become. No rapid transit, ratio of miles travelled for simple things like food stores, schools, even church, are far higher in the country then in the Vancouver metro area, thus putting a larger burden of the tax onto the population that on average, makes a hell of a lot less in yearly salary then those in the major urban areas. ETC.
Therefore, I am now against anymore raises regarding this tax, outside of the Vancouver area. If we that live in the densely populated metro area, are to have tthe abundant advantages, firehalls, hospitals, rapid transit, etc. then we should shoulder much more of the provincial tax burden. Again, back to my core belief of user pay for what user gets.
Sorry if this seems a bit disjointed, the moening kafe hasn't quite kicked in yet!
Jan 9, 2011 at 6:09 PM | DeNihilist,
I have to ask why you would think we should pay this crap tax what did you think it does for us ? If the greenies in gov want to get more money off me tell me the truth not some ffffing lie. with the co2 put out bye BC HOW CAN WRECKING MY LIFE HELP THE WORLD!!!!!
His Grace: "I have removed some trolling and the responses to it."
Hurrah!
I approve of WUWT's comment policy as a policy for WUWT but it makes no sense for a blog like this one where a couple of persistent trolls can completely trash a thread (e.g., 'Toronto Sun on Climate Files'). WUWT has 24 hour moderation and a significant lag before comments appear, often in reverse chronological order. That reduces coherence but makes trolling much harder work (though chtulu/onion does not shirk).
A small glimmer of hope as reality finally sets in. School boards in the north were outraged when the carbon tax ate up $17.00/student of their budget compared to $6.00/student for their counterparts in the south. Not only that, the money was fed in to the "Pacific Carbon Trust" a type of bureaucratic Rube Goldberg machine that essentially took the tax money and gave it to private corporations (mainly ski resorts) to subsidize their "innovative" energy projects (which basically amounted to expensive new heating systems).
This is just a taste of the strange logic that pervades under the banner of "saving the planet".
Warmist blogs tend to be heavily censored.
That makes them uninteresting and they are not popular.
They are jealous
They are also frightened that through open discussion, the truth is getting out.
for every knowledgeable blogger, there is probably ten or more aquaintants who gleem the truth, second hand from the knowledgeable ones.
This sudden spate of attacks just shows that warmists have very little faith in the strength of their case.