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S&TC recording

This is the full recording of the hearings this morning.

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"The Thatcher Room" ?????????

I'm sorry, but the mere metion of that women's name makes me want to vomit.'s-misery-201010223185/

Oct 27, 2010 at 1:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

So Acton and Davies admit that they 'sent in' the publications to the Oxburgh inquiry.

At what point do people in the UK resign when they have been found to be dishonest?

Oct 27, 2010 at 1:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterZT

Doesn't come up for me.

Oct 27, 2010 at 2:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterSteve McIntyre

Its working OK here in the UK

Oct 27, 2010 at 2:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterSteve2

Working OK in Spain.

Oct 27, 2010 at 2:32 PM | Unregistered Commentersimpleseeker after truth

Another link -

Oct 27, 2010 at 2:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterMarion

The video embedded on this page requires a Microsoft "technology" (loosely speaking) called 'Silverlight'. If you haven't installed Silverlight, the video won't play.

Oct 27, 2010 at 3:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterZT

Just installed Silverlight, but I still get the same message telling me to install it. Typical Microsoft shambles.

Oct 27, 2010 at 3:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Wright

If, like me, you don't care to install yet another video viewer and you're a UK voter then I suggest you do what I did, complain to

Nice people, just unaware that lots of viewers don't like MS. It really should be multiformat.


Oct 27, 2010 at 3:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterJulian Flood

I can see it. It didn't work using the Windows Media Player, but the Silverlight one works fine.
Running Windows 7 Pro, in Ohio, USA.

Oct 27, 2010 at 3:53 PM | Unregistered CommenterJonasM

It's working Ok in Australia

Oct 27, 2010 at 4:02 PM | Unregistered CommenterMalcolm Robinson

In another post, Bishop Hill reports that the Guardian Eco doesn't think that the witnesses were 'flustered'. Watch Russell's hands when Graham Stringer is questioning him. Also his face when Stringer has finished with him.

Oct 27, 2010 at 4:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterTonyN

FWIW, I'm in Canada and it's working for me - running OSX 10.6 and Safari 5.02 with Silverlight plugin...

Oct 27, 2010 at 4:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterFred


I think you should post that observation at the Graun together with the time on the video.

Oct 27, 2010 at 4:15 PM | Registered CommenterBishop Hill

It didn't work on my linux machine (but there is a work-around). I viewed it on my wife's M$ machine which has silverlight installed to view photo attachments on hotmail. That installation was free. M$ & CRU on the same day! AAAAAArgh

Oct 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM | Unregistered Commentersimpleseekeraftertruth

M$ Liverslight will not install with Windows XP SP1 - it requires SP2 or SP3.

I don't plan to endure the hassle of installing a M$ service pack on a stable installation that does all that's otherwise needed just to be able to install Liverslight.

Oct 27, 2010 at 4:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterMartin A

Working fine from Huntsville, Alabama and UAH using Silverlight.

Oct 27, 2010 at 5:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterBruce Cunningham

Coming through ok in Normandy (W2000, SP4)

Oct 27, 2010 at 5:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterMartin A

They relied on the US report that the science was sound. Didn't that US report rely on UEA's clean bill of scientific truth, or have I got my facts/memory wrong

Oct 27, 2010 at 5:19 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charley

Coming through loud and clear in Northern France (W2000, SP4).

Oct 27, 2010 at 5:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterMartin A

Fine for me in Munich, Southern Germany

Oct 27, 2010 at 5:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterPaul Boyce

it was working for me, but now isn't working.

Oct 27, 2010 at 6:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterSteve McIntyre

I can see it (if that is of any use). ;)

Oct 27, 2010 at 7:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterShub

"So Acton and Davies admit that they 'sent in' the publications to the Oxburgh inquiry.

At what point do people in the UK resign when they have been found to be dishonest?"

Oct 27, 2010 at 1:45 PM | ZT

That infamous email from Davies seeking an RS rubber stamp of approval for the papers looks even worse. And it stank to high heaven before: I now find it impossible to interpret as anything other than deliberate deceit. Can the UEA really not see the damage to its credibility that has been, and continues to be, done by Davies and the others?

Oct 27, 2010 at 7:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterDaveS

"At what point do people in the UK resign when they have been found to be dishonest?"

That's sooooooooooooo 1960's nobody resigns these days for dishonesty!

Oct 27, 2010 at 7:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterAdam Gallon

For those that may be misunderstanding what silverlight is it a bit like Adobe Flash. Its not a media player, but it will play media if that makes sense. Its designed to improve the user experience by taking the load of the web server. And no I don't work for MS Silverlight is also cross platform, in other words it will install into the main browsers on any platform.

Martin A O/T but you should be running sp3 on XP for security reasons if nothing else. MS doesn't allow silverlight on unsupportable platform for a reason. SP2 on XP was a major change to the security model, almost like another OS. In fact if they had their time over I think they work have tweaked the in fact as they did with the move from Vista to Win7.

Oct 27, 2010 at 9:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterPeter Geany

Why is it that Davies cannot say "Benny Peiser" but can refer to him as the editor of that journal (E&E) and director of GWPF, twice? Is Davies trying to say something?

By the way, those are rhetorical questions.

Oct 27, 2010 at 9:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterJonathan Drake

Why were "relationships" so important when the inquiries were meant to be impartial?

I hope the committee members were able to see through the façade.

Oct 27, 2010 at 10:02 PM | Unregistered CommenterJonathan Drake

Watched the broadcast live in Melbourne Australia, Windowx XP with silverlight already installed. There was a lot of breaking up and purple blobs, but that might be from my ADSL line. Today, the above link works fine. How does one record it for posterity?

Oct 27, 2010 at 11:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterGeof Sherington

The Chair of the Science & Technology group was timid at the start and so were the first few questioners. However Stringer was excellent (first time I have said this), he was strong, did not accept rubbish answers, persued people who did not give straight answers and was the only questioner to make Muir Russell et al start twitching :)
Answers, particularly by Russell were pathetic at times. Sorry if we didnt persue the issue of deleted emails or the fraud accusations by Doug Keenan, must have slipped our minds, well you know how it is.

Oct 28, 2010 at 2:55 AM | Unregistered CommenterDung

Russell said they read all the emails???
I thought his report said they didnt read ANY OF THE EMAILS because it would have taken too long. I need to go reread their report.

Oct 28, 2010 at 3:01 AM | Unregistered CommenterDung

I am sad to report that the video worked for me. Played like the worst Monty Python skit .... EVER.

Oct 28, 2010 at 7:05 AM | Unregistered CommenterDoug Obach

Went to the link provided by Marion:

Noticed the request to install Microsoft Silverlight but chose instead to run the option of running the video with Microsoft Media Player.

Watching now....

Oct 28, 2010 at 7:52 AM | Unregistered CommenterPaul in Sweden

I find it extraordinary that, according to Sir Edward Acton, it is normal in climate science to describe a "simulation" as an "experiment". I imagine it may be possible to conduct an experiment with a number of simulations but to think a simulation in itself is a experiment is peculiar.

Perhaps he will be telling us next that in climate science a "theory" can be regarded as an "axiom" and that since the theory of AGW is therefore an axiom it can no longer be challenged.

Oct 28, 2010 at 12:58 PM | Unregistered Commenterdiggerjock

Acton is more slippery than a greased eel. Nobody will get him.

Oct 28, 2010 at 1:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterChris

On the "Simulation" / "Experiment" topic. I have often reminded young scientists/engineers of the dictum that "The stimulation of simulation might be better than the pleasurement of measurement but it makes you go blind". Seems relevant in this instance.

Oct 28, 2010 at 1:32 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Lesser Plank

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