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No Pcar, that is NOT what she said. Look again at the extracts I cited yesterday. Better still read the transcript of her speech - not the words of someone who wants to achieve Net Zero.

Mar 21, 2025 at 8:55 AM | Unregistered CommenterGuenier

@Robin Guenier

Listen to what is said on BBC Today and what Badenoch said:

Decarbonisation must continue, Net Zero must be achieved

Only change is moving Net Zero year to an unspecified year beyond 2050

Mar 21, 2025 at 8:09 AM | Registered CommenterPcar

JHB & Director of Net Zero Watch, Andrew Montford


Equality Grifters Group Demands Race Be Taught In Climate Change School Lessons

- Climate Change School Lessons should be ended, they're pure Marxist propaganda

Climate change lessons should be used to discuss race, the Runnymede Trust told a national curriculum review

The race equality grifters group said teaching about global warming can help pupils explore how race impacts their lives and society [Where and how they live, not race]

The recommendation is part of calls to make climate change and sustainability propaganda a bigger part of the curriculum


Cost Of Net Zero Is Actually Unbearable: Leaked 2023 Govt Report Warns Green Plan Will Wreck Economy


Harry Cole & shadow business and trade minister Greg Smith

Greg Smith says "We Knew it all along” that Net Zero could bankrupt Britain [but did it anyway]

"I’ve been making the case for why my constituents shouldn’t be forced to pay tens of thousands of pounds for heat pumps that will make them colder and poorer” says the shadow minister

Mar 21, 2025 at 8:04 AM | Registered CommenterPcar

tomo,
Justice is tough to define, but you do know it when you see it.

Mar 21, 2025 at 12:37 AM | Unregistered CommenterRobert Swan

yessss ....

more please, lots more - few more deserving than Danny Boy

https://x.com/Markmaycott2/status/1902626915292151952

Mar 20, 2025 at 11:52 PM | Registered Commentertomo

The CO2 message is vague enough to be spun many ways. In the early noughties, when the hullabaloo was getting properly into gear, Australia was counted as being responsible for 2% of global emissions. I suggested (among friends) we should commit to reducing our share to 1% by 2020. This'd involve doing nothing, achieving it on the back of China's growth. My prediction was a bit off, probably because Australia's population has grown by about a third since 2000. Even though we're emitting more CO2 than in 2000, we're now down at 1.1% of world emissions.

This kind of commitment would not appeal to religious alarmists, but logically, it works ok. If world emissions start coming down, we have to reduce ours accordingly. Of course world emissions aren't doing anything of the kind, so what's the point of hurting ourselves?

It sounds to me like Badenoch is thinking along similar lines. She has spotted the contrast between what is said about emissions and what is actually happening to them. Doublethink again.


COVID dissident Kiwi doctor, Samantha Bailey, has been struck off for naughty YouTubes which suggested that the NZ government's pandemic actions might not be beneficial.


Enjoyed the recent EconTalk with Diasy Christodoulou on the use of AI in education. In three years she has gone from very enthusiastic to quite sceptical. Was amusing hearing how automatically marked essays increased the teacher's workload. They still had to read the essay, and now they had to assess the AI assessment of it (filtering out AI hallucinations, etc.).

An odd bit was that when AI was asked to pick which is the better essay: Peter's or Paul's?, the results were not "commutative"; it would often answer the other way if the question was Paul's or Peter's. Down in the bones of the thing, I suppose this comes down to the non-commutativity of matrix multiplication, but it's hardly intelligent.

Couple of digs at self-driving cars were in there too, which is always a winner with me.

Detractions: her rather strong "Estuary" accent, and her tendency to interrupt/talk over the top (might have been down to internet delay).

Mar 20, 2025 at 11:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterRobert Swan

Badenoch was actually the only MP who managed to question net zero in the debate where it was approved by acclamation in 2019.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2019-06-24/debates/28C238E5-2CA0-421C-AE98-B2588C102CB0/details#contribution-7F6C9363-DBD3-4498-8D2C-E39CE13E07B9

She has two problems to contend with. First, these MPs have declared their belief in Net Zero and will probably ensure she is ousted:

https://www.cen.uk.com/our-caucus

They have already been spouting criticism.

The second is trying to guess the size of the Tory green vote. There is a diehard element that profits from green business, including large donors such as Bamford. Among the general public there are some who remain bamboozled by BBC propaganda who believe the narrative, but are not going to prefer other parties otherwise.

On the other hand there are many who are sceptical who have deserted the Tories into NOTA or Reform principally who could be won back.

The journey down the route This year, next year, sometime, never… is almost certainly being driven by political expediency. The question is will this actually split the party? If it does, then I think we would see the CEN MPs fade to irrelevance or perhaps try to invade Lib Dems who might become the largest opposition party, but it would free those who disagree with them to be much more honest.

It will be for Reform to wake up and smell the coffee over energy policy: their present thinking is dire and rudimentary, and they don’t appear to have latched on to good advice.

https://davidturver.substack.com/p/reform-needs-to-reform-energy-policy

The Tories (or at least Claire Coutinho – who is really behind the policy change – and her team) have opened the door to sound advice – hence the warm reception from Benny Peiser at GWPF.

Mar 20, 2025 at 5:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterIt doesn't add up...

Pcar - three extracts from Badenoch's speech:

‘Anyone who has done any serious analysis knows Net Zero cannot be achieved without a significant drop in our living standards, or worse, by bankrupting us.’

‘Even if we hit absolute zero we will not have Net Zero around the world if other countries are following us, and they are not.’

‘Net Zero makes us dangerously dependent on countries that don’t share our values and it is risking our own security.’

Not the words of someone who wants to achieve Net Zero

Mar 20, 2025 at 7:23 AM | Registered CommenterRobin Guenier

MSM are pushing misinformation with headlines like Why Badenoch is abandoning Net Zero

Tories are not abandoning Net Zero, still want decarbonisation, net zero. Only say 'do differently'

Badenoch says Net Zero by 2050 should be dropped, but Net Zero must still be achieved

Badenoch & Co don't even accept windmills etc a problem. Boasted they built first off-shore wind farms

"We have highest energy price in world, twice German price and four times US price Despite more wind power than others" (BBC Today, ~8:45am Tuesday)

- Despite? No, correct word is Because


Australia Shuts Down Solar Farms Due to Bushfire Concerns – But the China Connection is Even More Worrying


There have been plenty of stories about wind turbines bursting into flames

Now it seems solar farms are fire hazards too and in more ways than one:

"Victoria’s energy safety regulator has ordered five solar farms to be switched off due to concerns over bushfire risks caused by...

The fire, which started in an inverter, sent black toxic smoke drifting over the small town of Raywood, causing authorities to..."

The country’s solar grid is increasingly reliant on ‘smart inverters’ to convert energy from rooftop solar panels into usable electricity for homes and businesses. But new research shows Chinese companies dominate 58% of the Australian inverter market, making the devices, which are internet-connected and can be remotely controlled, potentially...

Mar 20, 2025 at 6:50 AM | Registered CommenterPcar

Mailman,
It's not just political parties either. This daft notion of taking your loyal supporters for granted seems to be everywhere, more or less encapsulated in the customary Your call is important to us phone systems. How they deal with you is much truer than their soothing words.

It fits very well with Orwell's doublethink. We live in a "service economy", where the service is nearly always lousy. You've changed from a "Conservative government" who fostered chaos, to a "Labour Government" which despises the working class.

I wish Orwell had told us what the cure was. Large quantities of oily gin didn't work out all that well for Winston.

Mar 20, 2025 at 3:07 AM | Unregistered CommenterRobert Swan

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