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I did not mentions gas mate, this is about oil only :)

Yes, you are quite correct. I read your post and assumed that 'Gas' came out of the same 'holes' and so would balance out the Oil price and started typing from there. That'll learn me. 3x2 - stick to the actual subject of the post you are replying to.

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Oct 14, 2015 at 11:01 AM | Unregistered Commenter3x2

3x2

I did not mentions gas mate, this is about oil only :)

Oct 13, 2015 at 9:01 PM | Registered CommenterDung

Dung
There have been stories in the press recently that US shale oil production is on its knees because of OPEC action, flooding the market with oil. Today's report from Platts contradicts that story and tells us that the US can make profit at $35/b but obviously would prefer to sell at $60 or more. The government is paying them not to open up new wells which are ready to come online right now.

Not sure how that works. Surely, Oil prices shouldn't impact Gas except where they compete in the same market. For example, we don't generally use Oil to generate electricity so the Oil price shouldn't impact the electrical generation market. Same for heating the majority of UK homes.

Both the above examples also require one to believe that Oil prices will continue to fall (or even just stay the same). I'm not going to invest in a electricity generating plant running on Oil (or a new home heating system) unless I were totally convinced that Oil will continue to outstrip Gas in the (much) longer term. Don't forget that a GT plant is a very long term investment.

Sounds like more ill thought out green nonsense to me. Oil is not Gas and in many applications the two never meet.

The only advantage Oil has compared to Gas is that Western Governments are not ready, yet, to attack the Oil market. People might accept an artificial increase in electricity prices because the market is complex and so can be easily gamed. They will never accept a similar hike in petrol prices because the price of Petrol is readily understood by most to be a direct function of the price of Oil.

Oct 13, 2015 at 8:15 PM | Unregistered Commenter3x2

Latimer Alder

I wish I could join you at that lecture mate :(

Oct 13, 2015 at 7:11 PM | Registered CommenterDung

There have been stories in the press recently that US shale oil production is on its knees because of OPEC action, flooding the market with oil. Today's report from Platts contradicts that story and tells us that the US can make profit at $35/b but obviously would prefer to sell at $60 or more. The government is paying them not to open up new wells which are ready to come online right now.

Oct 13, 2015 at 7:09 PM | Registered CommenterDung

Delers on the attack, reporting on an article in The Register:
Top Physicist Freeman Dyson: Obama Has Picked The 'Wrong Side' On Climate Change
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/13/top-physicist-freeman-dyson-obama-picked-wrong-side-climate-change

Here is the article in The Register:
Top boffin Freeman Dyson on climate change, interstellar travel, fusion, and more
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/11/freeman_dyson_interview/

And what about this:
"The Register: It's now difficult for scientists to have frank and honest input into public debates. Prof Brian Cox, who is the public face of physics in the UK thanks to the BBC, has said he has no obligation to listen to "deniers," or to any other views other than the orthodoxy.

Freeman Dyson:That's a problem, but still I find that I have things to say and people do listen to me, and people have no particular complaints. ..."

No wonder the BBC loves Brian Cox!

Oct 13, 2015 at 6:23 PM | Registered CommenterRobert Christopher

We shall see soon enough, I guess. Whatever happens will be taken as further proof of AGW, though!

Oct 13, 2015 at 5:34 PM | Registered Commenterjamesp

jamesp
Doesn't always work! We had a pear and plum crop to die for last year and an exceptionally open winter to follow! Perhaps these things don't apply in France.
In my youth we certainly saw a heavy crop of haws as likely signs of a hard winter. I think it's all old wives' (or farmers') tales but these things usuall have a grain of truth in them somewhere.

Oct 13, 2015 at 5:25 PM | Registered CommenterMike Jackson

Anyone apart from me going to the GWPF lecture tomorrow night?

Oct 13, 2015 at 3:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterLatimer Alder

MJ

"How long it will be and how hard can be read from other signs"

Hedgerow fruit and berries are very plentiful this year, also apples/pears/plums. More logs required...

Oct 13, 2015 at 3:07 PM | Registered Commenterjamesp

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