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GC: Some people (and what company they keep! Ken and Oreskes!!) will do anything, sell their name to anyone, in order to say they are 'published'. It makes their future arguments so much more believable when they can query their protagonists to see it they are published (like wot I is, implies Ken). Its not far off [Ken] claiming that Fred West was a key influence in learning how to design cellars.
Phantom Raspberry Blower has let one go, and missed HotWhopper
Clarity of meaning in IPCC press conference. / Jacobs, Peter; Cutting, Hunter; Lewandowsky, Stephan; O'Brien, Miriam; Rice, Ken; Verheggen, Bart
The IPCC must have been really pleased to assemble such a crack team of loyal qualified climate scientists, to write what they wanted.
Is it a surprise that Lewandowsky is/has a piece of work?
Cook, J., Oreskes, N., Doran, P.T., Anderegg, W.R.L., Verheggen, B., Maibach, E.W., Carlton, J.S., Lewandowsky, S., Skuce, A.G., Green, S.A., Nuccitelli, D., Jacobs, P., Richardson, M., Winkler, B., Painting, R., Rice, K., Consensus on consensus: s synthesis of consensus estimates of human-caused global warming, , 048002, 2016.
Pure climate science
LOL @ SandyS. The moment you mentioned doctors I knew where the sentence was going.
A few years ago I got to do metal work at evening classes. I was making a big copper sculpture and one night, working alone I managed to cut 4 out of 5 fingers and uttered no more than a curse at the sting (never cut myself that way before). Then I made the tiniest scratch to my pinkie finger and suddenly felt woozy as my blood pressure tanked. Family experience told me to lie down before I fell down but I had the presence of mind to take a pen with me which I rolled under the desk, so that I could pretend to be looking for it if someone came in. Fortunately the fear they'd come health and safety on my ass brought my blood pressure right back up again.
Radical Rodent, imagine the levels of indignation that aTTP ought to express, about one of his co-authors at HotWhopper, for not hosting a proper scientific debate, about the lack of science in a a paper written by one of his co-authors, Lewandowsky.
Maybe it is the complete lack of science, in Climate Science, that creates a vacuum, and draws in suckers.
@It doesn't add up...
During the first few weeks of my time at secondary school in a small Perthshire town the languages teacher sadly died. He wasn't replaced until the next school year, by which time it was deemed impractical for us to learn a new language and pass O Level so we did more technical stuff, woodwork and metalwork! I regret that i didn't do anything about rectifying the situation until I was in my 50s and thinking about moving to France. My wife has French, Spanish, Italian and Latin as her linguistic skills. Over the years our skills have been complimentary, I've been able to make nuts and bolts from scratch and she's been able to talk to French doctors when making stuff has resulted in self inflicted injury, fortunately rare events.
One of the most useful languages for quizzes is Latin, amazing how much influence the Romans still have on everyday life without many of us knowing.
Actually, just reading through the comments on the Hotwhopper site, and the first thing noticeable is that there is very little scientific discussion, it is just each commenter trying to out-bile the others in their opinions of “deniers”, and being particularly unpleasant to any who dares question. Not a place for healthy debate, I would suggest.
It is interesting that we are constantly being fed the line that the year just past was, like, the hottest year, like, evah! Yet many of us say that it was little different from most years, or perhaps slightly cooler than many. Those who say that are usually dismissed with a cursory, “Oh, that’s just local – we’re talking global!” or, “Purely subjective… science says it was, so it must be.” It is curious that so many of these local observations seem to be so widespread, with Australians, Americans and Europeans noting that they thought it was a cool year, even if the winter might have been milder (Asians, Africans and South Americans, on the whole – and quite wisely – stay out of it; let the children bicker).
They're at it again. Who will rid us of these turbulent greens - preferably by arresting them?.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/19/british-museum-forced-to-close-as-protesters-scale-its-columns/