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Pcar. So you also self censor. I wonder just how many others do. This allows the bullies to thrive. I notice they have been suspiciously quiet recently, perhaps waiting for any fuss to die away before resuming their normal habits.

Hector P. Precious I might be, but I have no wish to be part of a community, nor to contribute to it, that tolerates such unconscionable behaviour by a small minority.

Pcar. EM does indeed deliberately provoke, and almost all of you fall for it. He was very blatant about it when he posted a raft of messages, on several threads a few days ago. I think he is much cleverer than you give him credit for and he can twist some of you around his little finger. Other than deliberately using"denier" (which is your hangup) I have never seen him use deliberately offensive language to warrent him being termed a "troll" nor to be subjected to the particularly virulent attact by Hunter, let alone it being repeated by Stewgreen. No one here has yet spoken up about this blatant abuse

May 21, 2016 at 8:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

@Alan Kendall, May 20, 2016 at 9:19 PM

I really did mean "this lot". In my experience there are 4-5 people who literally don't care a jot about other people's feelings and when one or more of them behaves like a troll, the rest of you do not react at all (except RR, I'll never call you Rabid Rat ever again!)

I got snipped once for using a word in jest, yet in the following weeks I saw the same word used by two others (regulars) but with serious intent. Yet the seriously nasty comments of hunter, repeated by dung and stewgreen, clearly scurrilous, are acceptable to the moderators. What sort of site are they running here? What sort of site have all of you allowed to develop?

I too find some posters unnecessarily aggressive, some are verging on trolling, some are insulting* - the joys & pitfalls of free speech.

I rarely rebuke others for flaming even when I feel tempted as I don't want to add to the animosity. Thus, don't assume silence means support of the flamers.

I would hope I am not one of "this lot". I visit BH to read & learn and occasionally contribute.

P

* imho EM encouraged his abuse by repeatedly using "Denier" in his posts.

May 21, 2016 at 8:05 PM | Registered CommenterPcar

Phillip Bratby, yes I don't know how people develop that level of cheek. Or why anyone would support it. There's something about charitable works that breeds it.

May 21, 2016 at 6:36 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

Seen over at WUWT

Climate Change is responsible for more rapes - and right wing extremists are responsible for Climate Change I presume ....

And they call David Icke bonkers

May 21, 2016 at 6:00 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Harry Passfield. Of course not you

May 21, 2016 at 5:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

Hector Pascal
For me it is guilt by comment and contribution and not association, as far as I'm concerned degrees from UEA aren't really important it's what you've done with them in the subsequent decades that's important. After all Phil Jones' qualified at Lancaster and did his post-graduate qualifications at the University of Newcastle and no-one holds graduates from either in contempt because of that. So not guilt assigned without evidence by comment and content.

Alan Kendall has taken a lot of stick, unfairly a lot of the time, because he likes a most of the output from the BBC. I don't watch reality, soaps or many American made programmes of any genre, but if you like any of that sort of stuff fine lots of people do. Documentaries on all channels have been dumbed down in my opinion, again if you think that brings science to a larger audience and is therefore a good thing then it's a valid position; I happen to think that it fails both viewers of a technical and non-technical background.

Personally I think EM is a totally different type of commenter than all regulars here. I can remember EM commenting on the BBC website in the days of Richard Black, his style hasn't changed (either that or he has stolen someone else's identity).

May 21, 2016 at 1:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

Alan Kendall

I think you are being a little precious. My first degree was Environmental Sciences from UEA. Faculty at that time included Fred Vine, Nick McCave, Chris Baldwin, Geoff Boulton and Rob Raiswell. I know I got a first class education (2:1 degree) from some top academics. It was enough to get me a very satisfying career in geoscience (sedimentology).

I've tried to explain this here in in the past but you won't get any sympathy here for any UEA affiliation. It's the company you keep (and I kept). Guilt by association, but understandable when you look at the behaviour of your peers.

May 21, 2016 at 12:09 PM | Registered CommenterHector Pascal

"If anyone queries the party line at pro-AGW blogs, including the Guardian, their comments will be censored/deleted, and therefore the illusion of Consensus is maintained."

Very true, GC. Recently the Big G has employed a new tactic after discovering that the consensus is not always in the direction that they desire. There's a couple of topics with which Comment is Free has become Comment is Forbidden.

May 21, 2016 at 11:25 AM | Unregistered CommenterRoyFOMR

Alan Kendall:

If I tell you that EM correctly interprets my feelings, who the h*ll are you to question this?
You have misunderstood me.Your feelings may have been correctly interpreted, but EM put that interpretation in quotes. It has been my experience with warmists like EM that they are sticklers for accuracy of citations etc when they come from sceptics so I was merely pointing out that he was being a bit cavalier with your words. Had he said that he felt this is what you meant, then no argument.

You then go on to say:

I am also entitled to ask what the moderators are doing to allow regular contributors to behave in trolllike behaviour.
I shall ignore the inference that this comment might have been aimed at me. But when it comes to Trolls - at least when they appear in the main blog - the Bish is very quick to jump on them, and if you'd experienced some of them you would, I submit, find it hard to think of many of the regulars here as trolls.

BTW: If any commenter, as EM has done, uses the 'D' word to describe we sceptics that immediately qualifies them for a trollery badge, IMHO.

May 21, 2016 at 11:03 AM | Unregistered CommenterHarry Passfield

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