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Aug 26, 2016 at 12:21 PM | Unregistered CommenterACK

"Next time team we bring Diane along, she'll send everybody scuttling off to the quiet carrage".

Aug 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterACK

TinyCO2. What an interesting idea. Do you have references? I can see it working for prey species like cattle, sheep and perhaps horses. Not so sure about others, reindeer can be both wild or semi-domesticated, and Indian elephants are wild but become trained. Certainly the dog and perhaps the cat fit. I give credence to Kipling's Justso stories where it is womankind that did the domesticating.

Removal of other top predators I think causes many animals to die long and painful deaths. For this reason I'm all for culling the weak and infirm, and sometimes (when there is excess) some of the young. We need to act as the top predators that we are. I cannot abide some tree-hugging ecologists who ignore the implications of human interactions and oppose culling.

Aug 26, 2016 at 12:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterACK

ACK, there is a theory that animal domestication was a survival feature. You see it happening in wild moose that have started calving in towns or near roads. Early humans might have taken older or sick animals but they didn't eat the babies. A lot of the time they just took milk. It was a step up in the world to be protected by a single predator.

Aug 26, 2016 at 10:54 AM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

O/T UK is supposed to be in housing crisis… so how come a local housing association has 25% of OK flats empty ?
BBC Humberside has also been talking about masses of empty flats in OK buildings at Washdyke in Immingham
The housing association has 220 flats in 18 towers and 55 of them are empty and have been for some time. The flats are mostly OK and the area is not the Bronx. (Like they are structurally sound and safe etc.)
They claim they have to act cos they are losing £4million/year. Unfortunately the BBC reporters are not smart enough to ask that works out at “£80K/year loss per flat how can that be right ?”
Nor does anyone say what the rent is.
Their solution is to kick all the residents out NOW : close the area completely demolish all 18 towers and then make plans to redevelop the area to house people, When will that be ? in 5 or 10 years time ?

Aug 26, 2016 at 10:42 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

@PhilBradby Wow today BBC Radio Humberside breakfast show covered renewable energy in an almost reasonable way
First they had the local UKIP MEP talking about how we have to do something, cos renewable energy subsidies hit poorest people the hardest

7.50 They had the “independent expert” on from Sneider Energy consulting.
He didn’t hype renewables tho did say that wind and solar costs are coming down.
The presenter was NOT a super skeptic, but not the usual walkover.

8:05 The guy from renewables UK was on. He did the normal thing of saying renewables are at parity. The presenter wasn’t totally fawning, but did say seems likes bills will be dropping after a couple of years.
They then spoke about the new Siemens factory ..saying ‘you see that money will all come back in local jobs ..and they’ll be EVENTUALLY exporting turbines. AS ever the BBC guy wasn’t up to tackling numbers. Facebook (ha MSWorks quotation marks didn't work in the link)

Aug 26, 2016 at 10:39 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

For those who might be interested (particularly in the "Impacts of global warming of 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels in the context of sustainable development, and efforts to eradicate poverty"), there was a three-day gathering of a select group of great and the good "experts" under the auspices of the IPCC.

Readers may recall that at the December Conference of the Paris Partygoers, it was oh-so-conveniently decided that:

the IPCC [should] provide a special report in 2018 on the impacts of global warming of 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels and related global greenhouse gas emission pathways.

Somewhere along the transformative way (evidently in April this year), this mission was expanded when the:

Panel decided to accept the invitation from the UNFCCC to provide a special report in 2018 on the impacts of global warming of 1.5ºC above pre-industrial levels and related global greenhouse gas emission pathways, and to prepare a Special Report on this topic in the context of strengthening the global response to the threat of climate change, sustainable development and efforts to eradicate poverty.

Context is everything, I suppose. However - in light of the above - I can't help wondering what might have happened to the kitchen sink! But, never fear, there's now a new, improved acronym of which we can take note: BOG**. There were several during this particular gathering.

For those who are interested in all the bafflegabbling details (along with the list of 75 designated experts), you could start with the IISD's summary with links galore, including one to the IPCC's very own compilation.

The list of "expert" participants does have a few unsurprising names (along with many I, for one, have never seen before). Needless to say, in true IPCC fashion, their respective areas of "expertise" are not provided!

**BOG="Breakout Group"

Amazing, eh?!

Aug 26, 2016 at 10:37 AM | Registered CommenterHilary Ostrov

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/704124/New-Hinkley-Point-power-station-not-essential-UK-meet-energy-targets

http://eciu.net/reports/2016/hinkley-what-if-can-the-uk-solve-its-energy-trilemma-without-hinkley-point-c

http://eciu.net/about/the-team

Aug 26, 2016 at 10:36 AM | Unregistered Commenternot banned yet

My typo !
But more interesting is latest TWEET from Richard Black
Demonstrating that people who criticise Trump are the ones that behave like bigots
#Projection

I’m guessing @realDonaldTrump denies existence of #Zikavirus - but that’s just a theory

Aug 26, 2016 at 10:35 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

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