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@TinyCO2, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:54 AM
ACK, there is a theory that animal domestication was a survival feature. You see it happening in wild moose that have started calving in towns or near roads. Early humans might have taken older or sick animals but they didn't eat the babies. A lot of the time they just took milk. It was a step up in the world to be protected by a single predator.
There was a media article in the past year regarding a fox in Russia. It had managed to trap its head in a glass jar and hid in bushes beside a road. When it heard people talking as the walked past it came out and rattled the jar on road asking for help.
Related to this "domestication" are Robins in British Isles where they use humans to help them find food. iirc in Europe they avoid humans.
Pcar
Solar activity has a direct impact on Earth’s cloud cover. h/t GWPF
http://www.dtu.dk/english/News/Nyhed?id=b759b038-66d3-4328-bbdc-0b0a82371446
This links nicely to the work of Jasper Kirkby. More evidence of the effects of solar emissions on both weather and climate.
Ross Lea
SandyS - quite!
As our oh-so PC politicos are scared of their own shadow this study will also be ignored as illustrated by the concluding paragraph:-
" Transport ministers also said it was “very likely” Britain would introduce a new kind of petrol called E10, which is made up of a higher proportion of biofuels than current fuel, in order to meet a target requiring 10 per cent of transport energy to be renewable."
The damage is mounting.
Green Sand
Green Sand
Another we told you so moment for sceptics.
SandyS
TinyCO2 /ACK
Urban foxes? It won't be long before there are many domesticated foxes in UK cities and available on the internet as pets, probably a few decades before one is Best In Show at Crufts though.
ACK
The long painful death is probably a long decline into a shorter painful death. Your Road to Damascus moment got it about right, it is a great shame that fewer and fewer people seem to undergo such revelations.
SandyS
Green Sand
Wrong thread. Sorry
ACK
"Next time team we bring Diane along, she'll send everybody scuttling off to the quiet carrage".
ACK
TinyCO2. What an interesting idea. Do you have references? I can see it working for prey species like cattle, sheep and perhaps horses. Not so sure about others, reindeer can be both wild or semi-domesticated, and Indian elephants are wild but become trained. Certainly the dog and perhaps the cat fit. I give credence to Kipling's Justso stories where it is womankind that did the domesticating.
Removal of other top predators I think causes many animals to die long and painful deaths. For this reason I'm all for culling the weak and infirm, and sometimes (when there is excess) some of the young. We need to act as the top predators that we are. I cannot abide some tree-hugging ecologists who ignore the implications of human interactions and oppose culling.
ACK
@AK, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:12 PM
+1
In British Isles we have removed the top predators of large animals, we must take their place.
"When there is excess some of the young" - Yes, as starvation is a slow and painful death too.