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stewgreen
I heard a Radio 4 interview Saturday morning on the topic. Some karma would be nice.... Utterly indefensible partisan point scoring and wholesale obstruction and misdirection is what I heard The Today program team is truly loathsome and beneath contempt.
If only some of the presenters / editors / producers / researchers were subjected to the consequences of their antics.....
Some major trickery yesterday with R4Today vs Andrew Norfolk and the Times
His article on Times front page yesterday was a Sarah Champion quote
- Left ‘failing to confront truth of sex crimes’
+ 2 page full interview ‘I’d rather be called a racist than turn a blind eye to child abuse’
+ Times Editorial : “Truth Hurts” : “Rotherham: Leftist media organizations instinctively recast the story as one of Islamophobia”
Bringing a point
"It's not a fear of racism that drives Labour's attitude to child sex - but the loss of male Muslim votes"
So you think that R4Today would invite him on to discuss those stories
No instead they acted as if they are the PR dept of the Labour Party defending its reputation
#1 First they brought on the Mayor of Tower Hamlets to talk about the foster case
He claimed "2 incidents never happened, she didn't have the cross removed from her, and she wasn't prevented from eating bacon, but I know very little about the case."
(strange thing to say , cos the court did accept those claims)
#2 So later at 8:45am they brought on Andrew Norfolk
And began with a hostile attitude
Their opening line : “This is islamophobia isn’t it ? ...14 areas have no Muslim fosterers”
AN : “Actually we broke that story that 14 areas have only white fosterers”
R4 : “Well The TH Mayor just said that no cross was removed and she wasn’t prevented from eating bacon”
AN ” He also said he was not aware of the full facts and …”
R4 ” I’ll stop you there we’re out of time ”
(Next item was chit chat with their Newsnight mates about the sleeper train being redecorated.)
So the real issues were not discussed ..BTW The Times Editorial also laid into the Guardian and called it incorrect.
stewgreen
The commercial solar panel scam is even worse. Around me there's a load gone up - the farmers just sign the lease and the solar power company bank and a posse of cronies install + operate - the farmer just sits back and lets the lolly roll in.... for 25 years =- *nice* pension....
The installers aren't averse to mis-declaring the number of panels either .... as happened around here.
@Tomo "not for profit"
hah ha
"Dutch firm invest £160m to 800k homes solar panels to get £132m profit a year"
- yep really good for the uk more more out!"
(i haven't traced his profit figure yet)
Maas is really a division of ABN AMRO 75% owned by the Dutch government.
bbc
stewgreen, Pcar
That solar scheme is simply the politically correct "not for profit" sector and their corporate crony chums taking the p1ss.
Social housing in my area has many sets of solar panels aimed into deep space.
If there was a brain cell available between them that they could perhaps share - then the installation of ground source heat pumps might get priority - but it looks like the municipal dullards and grasping salesmen have prevailed at present.
I wonder if they are checking the proposed items for flammability....
I heard some effusive R4 wibbling on the topic while driving - the virtue signalling was turned up to 11. The numbers quoted for saving on electricity bills were sheer fantasy - thankfully fuel poverty didn't get mentioned.... otherwise I might have driven into a ditch.
@Pcar I heard the 800K solar pabnelmstory on BBC radio
But look at the article you gave , it's title says 8 million and the body says 800,000
But the articles numbers seem all over the place to me
"The Government welcomed £160 million of capital spending by Dutch firm Maas Capital, which will help fund solar panels from UK company Solarplicity."
"Over 1,000 new jobs are to be created under a £1 billion programme to install solar panels on social housing across England and Wales."
Well 800K homes with a £1K million pounds = each set costs £800 ..that seems too small
"Around 100,000 households will receive panels in the next 18 months, reducing their energy bills by an average of £240 a year"
Wonder if that £160m pays for those 100K homes making it £1,600 per home
I was expecting £4K per home
And at that rate of 100K per 18 months , then 800K will take 12 years.
Other news: BBC - Bias by omission
2. Judge orders FBI to release Clinton email probe details
3. What happens when you criticize Google? You get the boot
4. Lawsuit targets police 'standing down' in Charlottesville
Latest news on the DNC/DWS Corruption BBC ignores on TV, Radiio & Website - Bias by ommision
Unlike other Democrats who had employed the family members, Awan and his wife, Hina Alvi, were kept on the payroll by [Democrat] Rep[resentative]. Wasserman Schultz – Alvi until she returned to Pakistan with their children in early March [after Comey ordered Homeland Security to release her & allow her to leave with a suitcase of cash], while Awan was paid until he was arrested [at airport as he tried to flee to Pakistan] and charged with bank fraud.
AK this investigation is daily headline news in USA, why is this so trivial BBC is correct to ignore?
More Gov't Green Lunacy
£1 Million tax-payer money for each job created.
Plus more consumer subsidies for the FIT.
Utter madness
Pg 85 Mail on Sunday
Smart Meters plain Dumb
... Costs each household £420 ...£10 gain
..and hackable