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@TinyCO2, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:42 AM
However fast your diesel car might depreciate it's got nothing on an electric carhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-4943684/The-10-fastest-depreciating-new-cars-revealed.html
Cheat - you plagiarised the post I was about to post ;)
Depreciation (effectively) as soon as you drive it out of showroom:
Nissan Leaf 72%
Renault Zoe 76%
Pcar
Claim "8m tonnes if plastic reach the oceans each year"
Elsewhere a claim "There's /will be more plastic than fish in the ocean"
Wikipedia gives the total biomass of just fish (not including krill/plankton etc) as 800-2,000m tonnes"
ie with no degradation it would take 100 to 250 years for plastic to outweigh fish.
stewgreen
Times main editorial
"Rubbish Dumped
The world’s oceans are being choked by plastic, but they will recover quickly if governments work together to stop it reaching the open sea"
"Recover quickly" - magical thinking.
"Plastic is now part if the food chain"
.. Big assertion with no evidence.
"International environmental initiatives have worked before eg CFC phaseout"
Hmm not proved .
"Failure means plastic on the menu and little else"
... Dramaqueening
"A bottle deposit scheme would clean up Britain's LA dmass/waters"
.. Wrong wording..it might decrease the rate of pollution
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"In Germany/Denmark 90% of plastic bottles are returned"
I doubt ..wonder how they deal with Polish/French bottles.
Last paragraph 'but bottle return means "oceans would be still choking on plastic"
"4 of the 5 biggest plastic river sources are in China"
"The priority .. must be to cajole China"
Then there is a long article about Prince Charles in Malta. On pg 11
stewgreen
Something manmade that doesn't breakdown very easily
Oct 6, 2017 at 3:17 PM | stewgreen
Thought you meant Climate Science.
golf charlie
Something manmade that doesn't breakdown very easily
... And could end up in fishes stomachs
...human teeth.
Should we build a Fort Knox for bits dentists drill off ?
stewgreen
8:50pm R4 show "The Apocalypse Hasn't Happened Yet" ..no further details
..will it be Scruton or a Lefty commentator ?
stewgreen
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/10/06/so-what-happened-to-expertise-with-the-ipcc/
golf charlie
Further evidence that the end of DECC hasn't dampened enthusiasm for all things green: first, CCS rears its head again, and now on-shore wind
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/10/04/onshore-wind-poised-comeback-tories-warm-lower-costs/
DaveS
News : Japanese carmaker Toyota intends to build its next generation Auris car at its British car plant 2021
currently Auris is available in diesel/petrol/hybrid
an autoblog on a sneek peek of of a new Auris says
"Technically we can expect the 1.2 Turbo petrol and hybrid from the related C-HR"
stewgreen
R4 now : The Apocalypse Hasn't Happened Yet
Andrew Sullivan says Donald Trump is teaching a generation that the key to advancement in society is to bully, lie, slander and cheat.
.. "his appalling conduct will mark a cautionary tale - and future candidates and presidents will learn not to follow in his steps".