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Ross Lea
thanks for the link to the Svensmark interview. When I listen to a Dane speaking accented English it always makes me smile as I recall listening to Englishmen mangling Danish :-)
What is noticeable in the matter is the eruption of vehemence and snark from people like Gavin Schmidt when Svensmark publishes something - he comes over as such a mild chap :-)
Academia in its present form is doomed if tosspots like Lewindowski and The Cabot Institute can get bucketloads of funding for what they do - yet Svensmark gets approval in principle for an investigation from CERN one of the most prestigious physics research establishments in the world - but he can't get funding.
@Mark It's all from the Schlenker study I spotted in the Times Yesterday
I spotted Briggs debunk & told Paul, he used the Michael Bastach post which uses Brigg's debunk.
Brigg's debunk is also in WUWT
wattsupwiththat.com/2017/12/21/this-junk-again-hotter-temperatures-will-accelerate-migration-of-asylum-seekers-to-europe/
More publicity for nonsense, from Matt McGrath:
Higher temperatures linked to EU asylum figures
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42446085
"Sharp increases in the numbers of those seeking asylum in the European Union have been linked to higher temperatures in agricultural regions of the world.
Researchers found that when temperatures deviated from 20C in food growing areas of 103 countries, more people sought refuge abroad.
Around 660,000 extra applicants would be expected each year by 2100, the authors say, if current temperature trends continue.
The study appears in Science journal."
The next para from McGrath's piece says this:
"Between 2000 and 2014, around 350,000 people applied for asylum in the European Union every year. The majority came from countries such as Afghanistan and Iraq."
So the majority come from war-torn countries (where there is no evidence that the war stems from climate change) but it's climate change that's driving asylum applications....
And even the author admits to great uncertainty:
"However Prof Schlenker says that he was far less confident about the future impacts of rising temperatures and asylum numbers in the EU.
"We basically have to assume that the relationship we uncovered between 2000 and 2014 is going to remain unchanged for the next 80 years," he said.
"There are many reasons for why it could go either way. We could start adapting to warmer temperatures, so the impacts would be less, but if you shock people every year with the same thing, it could be much worse. We could be under or overestimating the effects.""
But still the BBC headline is alarmist.
Paul Homewood offers a debunk from Michael Bastach at the Daily Caller:
New Study Linking Global Warming To Refugees Is ‘Most Idiotic Use Of Statistics’ This Expert Has Seen In A Long Time
Via GWPF and interview with Henrik Svensmark with an explanation of his work in his own words. IMHOP worth a listen. https://soundcloud.com/gwpf/gwpf-podcast-004-david-whitehouse-henrik-svensmark-1
Actually the ONS graph puts it as about 700bnKm by road and 70 by train
So that is 10%
But that price £5/week per household does seem very cheap cos it would cost me £10 to go to next town and back. So train journeys are very rare here
I'm guessing London pensioners and season tickets really brings the cost per Km down.
I still cannot beleive that 10% of Km are by train.
Maybe the 700bn road total is quoted as passenger Km thru 35m cars , ie 20,000 passenger km/car
Office of RoadnRail database for England/Wales
1.73 billion journeys
65 billion Km
is 1,000km per head of population/year
about 38Km average jouney
around 85% of all passenger journeys are by car. Only 10% are by train.* (not true £5/WK/household)
Yet rail had had more investment, some £50bn over the last 5 years than roads over the same period, about £43 bn. (bar chart)
* same article says
"The average household spent £17.20 a week on public transport last year - that's rail, underground, bus, coach and air travel combined.
Most of this - £11 per week - went on air travel...
.. less than £5 a week on rail fares and season tickets.
This might surprise people living in London and the South East"
Glad tidings Delers brings
Christmas Is Here, Everyone! EPA Officials Are ‘Leaving in Droves’
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ROFL - importing RoP terrorists is not multicultural enrichment, it has high costs.
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Seems like 1 April again
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SJW Fraud & Corruption
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The worm is turning?
2. Swedish Gang Rapes: Hundreds Protest After Third Attack In Weeks Leaves 17-Year-Old Hospitalized
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Crypto Currency Bubble
1. Prominent Names Within the Crypto Space Cash Out Their Positions
2. Ashley Webster discusses why bitcoin is so volatile and why prices have plunged.
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MENA Cleaning - Trump & Putin undo what Obama & Clinton funded
The Fight For Syria's Last Al Qaeda Holdout: Russian Jets Launch Nonstop Airstrikes Over Idlib
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And finally, news that has AK & Remoaners wailing in the Groan
Burgundy EU passports are going, going, soon gone.
Good Night, God Bless and Merry Christmas
Clarkson in the Sun
\\ Apple says the phones are made to operate less quickly to preserve the batteries, which wear out with time.
That can’t be good news for people who’ve bought an electric car.
Yes, it does 155mph now. But in a couple of years it’ll be quicker to hop to work.//