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Guardian Feb 22
" All in on renewable energy:*Jay Weatherill* to ramp up SA target to 75%
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/feb/21/all-in-on-renewable-energy-jay-weatherill-to-ramp-up-sa-target-to-75…
\\ Cop that Josh & Fizza.
What the nation needs and is capable of.
It plays to our strengths of sunny climate, plenty of coastline and winds. And encourages new technology.//
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Bolt weatherill-loses-his-referendum-on-renewables
\\ South Australian Premier Jay Weatherill said it himself after driving power prices through the roof with his hugely expensive global warning schemes:
This is a really important and sharp difference between the two major parties leading up to the next state election... I think this election will be a referendum on renewables.
He didn't just say it once:
If we go down, they will be wagging their fingers at everybody around the nation, to say that’s what happens if you push too hard into renewable energy.//

Now I haven't a clue.
Mar 18, 2018 at 1:10 PM | TinyCO2
If only Climate Scientists had such honesty, they wouldn't keep trying to force manipulated data to match failed theories.
I get the idea of warm water welling up, and/or rising over colder currents, and have seen turbulent water in non-lunar tidal areas of the Mediterranean (Straits of Messina) caused by rapid changes of barometric pressure in narrow channels etc.
This is surely an upwelling of cold, rather than rapid heat loss at the surface? If cold can rise, Trenberth will hail this as unprecedented proof of heat diving to the ocean bottom, and hiding!

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Windty have upgraded their weather forecast web code - the result is excellent

gc, I've not seen it before but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I started looking at the ocean heat about 10 years ago, just after the last serious La Nina, but each time I watched a site, the thing would run for a couple of years and then stop. So I've then had to find another and they portray the data differently. I've never seen a big La Nina born and started watching just after the last big one peaked. Things can change quite quickly but over weeks, not from one half weekly plot to the next. If the plume had been warm, you'd think there was an underwater eruption. I've looked at the winds in the area and they don't look odd. Usually you can see what the Pacific is going to do at the back end of the previous year. By March, the Pacific has usually made up it's mind and will at most go neutral from a prevailing position or the other way. I've never seen an about face. Last year's La Nina was obviously going to be weedy from about 6 months before. This year it looked like a modest El Nino was in the offing. Now I haven't a clue.

gc
I hope Jay Weatherill goes the full Hillary and starts a resistance movement

Mar 18, 2018 at 11:01 AM | tomo
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/03/17/ruling-climate-fanatics-obliterated-in-aussie-state-election/

Mar 18, 2018 at 11:02 AM | Unregistered Commenter TinyCO2
Is this Unprecedented, because no one has noticed it happening before?

Twitter today seems especially active in signalling to its users which posts are correct think....
I'm seeing lots of "That tweet has been deleted" and "Something went wrong" on Tommy Robinson, Russia and especially anything to do with FBI boss McCabe being fired.

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In 78 I moved an ex girlfriend from Leicester to Mönchengladbach and took advantage of the EU rule of "only the customary ID in your country of residence is required" to travel - the Dutch shrugged and waved me through - the Germans at Venlo locked me up for an hour and were looking from the "wanted" posters to me and back again.... annoyed that I didn't have a "riesepasse" with me ....
The murky (STASI control) background of German Greens and anti nuke crew is something the Germans aren't as a rule keen to talk about. Merkel's political activity in the east is also under a sheet.

This started sub surface. It might not be cooling as such but a failure to warm as per normal, which would look like cooling, but it's such a tight column.
What might have happened is that the anomaly was off the line of the chart and a shift in north or south currents pushed the cold into view. I've only got links to the sub surface patterns along that latitude, so I don't know what the other areas are doing. The surface doesn't seem to show anything weird. If it was off the chart, is it the remainder of last years La Nina or a new feature?
I do think that heat can be dragged down and cold pushed up. I cant think of any other way that El Nino and La Nina happen.