Unthreaded
Yes, very good to read Latimer's skirmishes with the solar dupes. Almost felt sorry for them until I recalled the waste and pollution they are bringing to the world without good cause.
John Shade
Thank you Latimer - I had a good chuckle reading your harrassment of the solar panel installers and rationalisations they responded with.
Martin A
I enjoyed this comment:
It appears to be a fact that 1880, and many years after that, are getting colder by the year. Not only that but temperature means are getting warmer by the year for the later figures.
Take 1996 for example. That has warmed by .06°C in the last 7 years! The anomaly has gone from 25 (.25°C) to 31 (.31°C). It is scary to think that the temperature back in 2005 can still keep climbing even in 2012.
http://nextgrandminimum.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/1647/
and H/T Tom Nelson
Messenger
@shub
I don't think we should be too hard on Darren. My guess is that he has moved from the roofing trade to solar installations - perhaps having been seduced by the feelgood, but ultimately foundationless - hype of the green lobby. The good news is that people will still need roofs even when the solar bubble has burst. And I'd lay a small wager that there might develop a nice little niche in removing the blasted things if they don't survive in working order for the full 25 years that the payback deal requires.
Latimer Alder
I think you missed this one:
http://www.tyndall.ac.uk/communication/news-archive/2012/kevin-anderson-gives-cabot-lecture-university-bristol
Whilst orthodox expertise maintains “2°C is not only possible but achievable without sacrificing the benefits of economic growth and rising prosperity”, this paper argues “it is difficult to envisage anything other than a planned economic recession being compatible with 2°C, 3°C and increasingly 4°C futures”.
"Planned economy", I think I've heard that before...
Jean S
Well close to 3 years in to this statement from the MET Office
Looking further ahead, our experimental decadal forecast confirms previous indications that about half the years 2010-2019 will be warmer than the warmest year observed so far - 1998.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2009/record-levels
And no year has yet to breach 1998, so in the next 7 years 5 have to beat 1998.
Breath of Fresh Air
Mention for the Bishop and the HSI here
http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2012/11/land-of-the-long-white-hockey-stick
Messenger
Good thread, Latimer. I liked the comment from 'Darren' who says he 'Believes in renewables', with a capital B.
shub
Whoops, forgot the link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/9685094/Power-lines-to-be-laid-across-the-Norfolk-Broads.html
Messenger
I don't know if anyone has seen this but there is an interesting map on the Daily Teleghraph website, an interactive map of all windfarms in the UK.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/9645593/Interactive-map-every-wind-farm-site-in-the-UK.html