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Discussion > Politicians, NGOs & Corps jumping on the Alarmism bandwagon

Before information comes in, arguments don't sit on a level plain
... it's easier to choose one option rather than another,
The drive flows downhill
eg in many situations it's a lot more convenient just to keep the status quo
rather that make a change
.. even though that change might turn out to be a positive

In the Global Warming the drive is not to keep to the status quo
but rather the that drive flows downhill is toward Global Warming Alarmism
: You get subsidies
: you get to be saviour of the world
: you are safe from criticism of inaction or procrastination
: Green orgs have a feeling of youth , coolness, etc.
whereas the chicks are not attracted to fossil fuel old guys etc.
: your department or charity is set for growth & expansion
: People are comfortable with the idea , "more natural is good" ..the nature fallacy
: People are predisposed to thinki g which gives them disaster and magic solutions

Now what is interesting is that the Australian election seems to have broken that downhill flow towards Global Warming alarmism


A commenter said
\\ BBC radio was also labelling our election
as the "climate change election" last week
with plenty of focus on the messages of the so-called fake Liberal independents //

May 18, 2019 at 11:00 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

I got around the paywall, but I cant copy the text ..yet
But Facebook has video

(ah yes got the full text now)

... This election is huge. Consider.....

Greens leader Richard Di Natale: This is a climate change election.

Labor leader Bill Shorten: This election is all about climate change.

Guardian Australia editor Katherine Murphy: 2019 is the climate change election.

.... It was indeed, and they lost.....

The Liberals look like being returned in a miracle come-from-behind performance,
although they will have to form a minority government.

In Queensland, where Labor seemed set to stop the giant Adani coal project,
Labor went from picking up an expected three or four seats to losing three instead.

(Adani will now almost certainly proceed.
The Queensland Labor Government will be too scared to keep blocking it now.
The massive anti-Adani protests have backfired.)

In the outer suburban seats of Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney,
where poorer voters can't afford the higher power prices caused by global warming zealots,
Labor's predicted swing evaporated.

This election has changed the climate.
But it's the intellectual climate that's changed.

Labor, for one, will have its confidence in its global warming policies and gurus shattered.

.... Brilliant....

May 18, 2019 at 11:22 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

another paywalled article
ELECTION OPINION Prime Minister Scott Morrison has become an instant Liberal hero tonight.

But Labor and the Greens said this was a global warming election,
and they’ve been humiliated, writes Andrew Bolt.

May 18, 2019 at 11:33 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

(GWPF highlight Jo Nova)

The Labor Plan to cut Australian emissions by 45% percent is over — per capita this would have been a world record sacrifice in a country already increasing their renewable energy faster than any other.

Labor was tipped to win decisively in every poll. Even in the exit polls. People told pollsters one thing, then they voted the other way, and hid that again on the way out the polling door.

This then is not just the abject failure of climate change as a vote winner, it was also a crashing fail for the pollsters. Thousands of Australians have been badgered and bullied into saying they believe in climate change and they were not going to vote for conservative or right leaning parties. They knew it was more trendy to vote for Labor, but when the time came, they voted against them both.

Bullying works in public, but people vote alone.

The only seat that broke this rule was the massive battle at Warringah, where GetUp threw everything they had
Jo Nova continues

May 18, 2019 at 11:43 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

This Bolt article just before the election is interesting
.. nothing in the article but it's the way that Labour supporters left sneering comments
... and then non-Labour people added to the comments AFTER Labour lost

May 19, 2019 at 12:43 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen
good comments again

May 19, 2019 at 12:48 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

look at this smug lefty panel 13 mins before voting closed
all predicting vast Labor win
With their favourite commentator Waheed Aly saying
"Labor will win with 81 seeats"
..hmm they got 20% less than that
tweet video

his nickname is W-ally

May 19, 2019 at 12:31 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

The ABC used to have this one prog a week Outsiders that aired non. lefty viewpoints
Rowan Dean @rowandean Editor The Spectator Australia used to be on it
In this great video he lays into the lefty/libmob for trying to claim ownership of the election
Malcolm Roberts MP video

@rowandean the ONLY person in the media to predict a Coalition win.
The Outsider more in touch with the electorate than MSM!!!
All the Experts at #theirABC predicted a Labor win.

May 19, 2019 at 1:44 PM | Unregistered Commenterstewgreen

I don't agree with him saying that they LOST
cos it was an almost 50/50 election

but they did lose in the way they tried to claim ownership and say everything should be done their way.
They didn't respect nonlefties
..but we should give some concessions to their side

May 19, 2019 at 1:48 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Malcolm Roberts is one of ours
the main man at the Galileo Foundation
Elected as senator for One Nation
but then after doing good work a fishing expedition forced him out
He'd not known hei had dual citizenship thru his grandfather
He renounced it but the British Embassy never sent him confirmation a court judged him illegal cos dual citizens can't be in parliament
... Apparently he is back in now.
Or could be
"Are you confirmed senator Malcolm?
Malcolm Roberts 🇦🇺 @MRobertsQLD
No. Need to wait a week to two when preferenced are distributed"

May 19, 2019 at 2:01 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Oh Rowan Dean has his Sky victory video

May 19, 2019 at 2:06 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Another 1m30s clip We The Skeptics Won
.. the normal Aussie sees alarmism as a hoax

May 19, 2019 at 2:13 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

New Full length Bolt article
\\ Andrew Bolt: The climate change election failed the Left

Labor and the Greens called this the climate change election. They were right. And — great news — they lost.

That’s why the Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s “miracle” win is so massively important.

Yes, the climate will now change. But it’s the cultural climate that will change, and for the better.

See, that great global warming scare crusade — all those rallies, those hysterical students on strike, those anti-Adani protesters, those GetUp crusaders — have been crushed.

Remember what the Left said, right up until polling day..

Labor leader Bill Shorten: “This election is all about climate change.”

Greens leader Richard Di Natale: “This is a climate change election.”

Indeed it was. Yet Labor — which vowed to cut global warming emissions by four times more than even the Liberals — crashed after nearly three years of leading in every opinion poll.

It lost despite claiming the public shared its messianic faith that the world was warming dangerously (it isn’t) and that Australia could help stop it (it can’t).

The Liberals — who didn’t even mention climate change in their election launch — won instead, in a campaign where they demanded voters consider the cost of Labor’s promises.

Look where Labor’s campaign was destroyed: Queensland, where Labor implicitly threatened to stop the giant Adani coal project.

Shorten had expected to win three or four seats there, but lost two. Queenslanders turned out to be outraged by urban salvation-seekers sacrificing Queensland jobs on the altar of global warming.

That’s why locals also booed an anti-Adani protest convoy last month when former Greens leader Bob Brown led it through their towns.

Labor’s predicted swing also evaporated in outer-suburban seats of Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney, and poorer parts of Tasmania, where voters can’t afford even higher power prices, thanks to global warming policies.

True, Labor was also badly damaged by its promise to raise another $490 billion in taxes over 10 years — particularly its promise to hit the franked dividends of superannuants.

But take the Left at its word: this was above all a climate change election.

I can understand why so many ABC presenters yesterday were in denial about this rejection of Labor’s warmist scheme. They’d had no idea there was such hostility to it. But that’s because sceptical Australians are often so scared of the Left’s bullying that they shut up — until they get into a polling booth.

Scott Morrison might have shut up, too, but for two huge mistakes made by Bill Shorten.

Morrison would have said almost nothing about global warming because he knows the warming-obsessed media would have torn him apart.

He also could not risk provoking open war with Turnbull and his warmist supporters in the party.

But Shorten stupidly let him attack Labor’s policy by proxy, when he promised Labor would make Australians buy as many electric cars as they do petrol ones. Voters could immediately see this was crazy. Electric cars cost more, and where are all the recharging stations? Who wants to wait half an hour to charge up?

Morrison pounced, and Labor lost a week of campaigning trying to explain this nonsense promise, with Shorten clueless on recharging times.

Another week was lost with Shorten making up a string of excuses for his ludicrous refusal to tell voters the cost of the rest of his global warming plan. He looked plain shifty, especially after economist Brian Fisher put that cost at $250 billion over a decade. No wonder voters started to fear Labor and its global warming plans. How much would this really hurt? What good would it actually do? (Answer: none. Australia’s emissions are too small.)

By the end, Shorten was desperately suggesting a vote for Labor would give us fewer droughts. What a joke. No wonder Labor lost.

And good, because finally the intellectual climate may improve. Voters will now know warmist politicians aren’t honest about the cost of their schemes. Politicians will now know the power of GetUp and the anti-Adani hordes is less than they feared.

And Labor will know — or had better — that it must drop its more extreme global warming policies. It’s got to be honest now about how global warming policies hurt the poor. And mustn’t.

The Queensland Labor Government will crack first. It’s seen the backlash to federal Labor and knows voters will punish them, too, for putting the warmist cult of the wealthy above the jobs of workers. Bet on this: the Adani mine will finally be approved.

What a result. Hysteria confounded, and reason rewarded. Brilliant.

Originally published as Bolt: Why the climate change election failed the Left

May 19, 2019 at 3:19 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

“We have lost Australia for now,”
warned Penn State climatologist Michael Mann in an email.
“A coalition of a small number of bad actors now threaten the survivability of our species,” he said
I bet he was in his secret lair
... stroking his white cat.

Joe Romm wrote this Think Progress Article
‘We have lost Australia for now,’ warns climate scientist in wake of election upset

May 19, 2019 at 5:38 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Dr Robert Fagan, retired WA mines University lecturer
appears to be another geologist in the mode of Ian Plimer
His tweets

May 19, 2019 at 6:01 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

There is a hysterical Twitter thread started by a dumb TOP journo when he was sure that Labor would win
and he couldn't understand how top old timer radio host Alan Jones
... said he thought all the pollsters were wrong and Labor were sure to lose
... The way they piled on against Jones ... is nasty and sneery
Yet they look like complete fools , now he is proved right
And this week he will be a panelist on ABC TV's Q and A , panel show

That dumb journo is Bevan Shields
Federal Editor and Canberra Bureau Chief for the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age
(They are probably Australia's 2 top papers)

I collected 3 collages of the best Didn'tAgeWell tweets
best jack up the screen magnification to 150%

May 19, 2019 at 11:31 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

The Morrison gov seems to be getting 3 more seats than they had previously
\\ Prime Minister Scott Morrison looks likely to win 77 seats, allowing him to appoint a Speaker and govern in majority.

Out of three close seats listed on the Australian Electoral Commission website on Monday, the Liberals were on track to win Chisholm in Victoria and Bass in Tasmania, with Labor holding the NSW seat of Macquarie.
If the current count trends continue, this will give the Liberals 77 seats in the 151-seat House of Representatives, with Labor on 68 and six crossbenchers.//

\\ In the previous parliament the numbers were: Liberals 58 + Nationals 16,
Labor 69, Greens 1, Centre Alliance 1, Katter's Australian Party 1, independents 4 //

May 20, 2019 at 1:01 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Someone said that the metro liberal establishment bubble
will see the one metro seat won in Warringah as a GreenLight for hyper Climate Change policies

..whilst ignoring the red light that the whole non-metro country sent

The urban elite think their views reflect the nation,
... so whilst Labor lost the #ClimateChangeElection nationwide,

Zali overthrowing Abbott is a nationwide green light in their #IvoryToweredMinds.

May 20, 2019 at 1:36 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

@Stew Green

from Bolt's article:

> " ... sceptical Australians are often so scared of the Left’s bullying that they shut up ..."

Not scared of the bullying, just well tired of it. A good measure of this, apart from the actual election result, is the huge increase in pre-poll voting. This is where one attends a legal set-up polling booth at any time you choose during generous opening hours and vote before the actual election day. Most of these booths do not have leftoid thugs trolling outside the door loudly insisting that if you don't vote their way you must be a racist, homophobic, islamophobic, denier rat or something similar. These pre-poll booths were set up about 3 weeks before the actual election -

May 20, 2019 at 3:22 AM | Unregistered Commenterianl

> "The Queensland Labor Government will be too scared to keep blocking it now ..."

That "it" is Adani's proposed Carmichael mine in the unopened Galilee Basin in central north-west Q'ld.

The Q'ld Govt Premier and her deputy (Palaeochook and Jackie T in order) blood-sacrificed Shorten (Fed Opposition loser) to Gaia by constant goalpost shifting on mine approvals. This morning, when the Labor loss of Q'ld seats due to this dishonesty is measured and counted, these rabbity politicians are both unrepentant and in deep denial.

So no, they are not at all scared of continuing to block it. The accountability is completely someone else's.

May 20, 2019 at 3:30 AM | Unregistered Commenterianl

The Queenland parliament was taken by Labor mid-cycle of the national government
so the new Qld election is probably in 18 months isn't it ?

May 20, 2019 at 11:19 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Now that the dust is settling, the votes are almost completely tallied and shock has ebbed away, it is very clear that it was indeed a close-run thing.

A handful of lowish population density seats in Central Queensland really decided the overall result. These people live and work in coal country (I have worked there on and off for over 30 years so I know the country well) and do not take kindly to inner-city groups sneering at them, trying to shut their livelihoods down. Large scale farming for export is the other major industry.

These people are the Aus equivalent to the Yellow Vests. And they won.

May 24, 2019 at 12:24 AM | Unregistered Commenterianl

" ... the new Qld election is probably in 18 months isn't it ?"

In a bit over 12 months. The gloves have finally come off - Q'ld Premier Palaeochook and her Deputy Jackie T are slanging off at each other in the press and public radio. Mine approvals are now on a fast track (this from the CEO of the Adani Carmichael mine, and he has been well blooded in mendacious political oopsies) and because the rail line to be built as part of mine development opens up the entire Galilee Basin to mining (there are four other huge leases just waiting on that rail line), the Greens including Greenpeace are now calling for civil disobedience uprisings.

May 24, 2019 at 12:32 AM | Unregistered Commenterianl