Tuesday
Sep082015
by Bishop Hill
What's in a name?
Sep 8, 2015 Climate: MetOffice Climate: Sceptics
One of the ideas that has been kicked around the green community for a while is to persuade the WMO and national met offices to name storms after prominent global warming sceptics.
As climate change continues to create more frequent and devastating storms, we propose a new naming system. One that names extreme storms after policymakers who deny climate change.
Now, with a certain air of innocence, the Met Office is suggesting that the public might like to suggest names for major storms that head our way this winter.
Hmm.
Reader Comments (55)
Ah, the first step on the ladder of inventing weather events that don't exist, perhaps? The Human mind is the most powerful weapon & tool on the planet, & it is easily fooled with it!
Abbott, Andrew, Anthony. Josh,Judith, Jo, .Fenbeagle, Willy, Willis, Christopher, Tallbloke, Jennifer, Pointman....... Think of all the free publicity the Greenies want to give climate scepticism. Amazing how often unintended consequences go hand-in-hand with Climastrology.
It will be an almighty battle between the Directioners and the Swifties.
The only thing wrong with your post, Alan, is that they have been "inventing" non-existent weather events for years.
Setting aside that the physics would suggest less in the way of severe weather as the temperature gradient* declines (as I understand it) the claims that more severe and more frequent storms are already happening has been a staple in the Warmist Playbook for as long as I can remember.
They had a go at naming storms last winter; it's farcical and any self-respecting genuine meteorologist ought to be mocking it every chance they get. Doubtless the BBC will lap it up, though.
* I don't need to explain the difference between a decline in temperature and in temperature gradient on this site, do I? Any passing troll will no doubt get it wrong anyway.
Sure, I'll help out:
Al Gore
James Hansen
Slingo
Jones
Briffa
Ward
Dana
Rice.....
I'd pay to sponsor Cyclone Maurizio
GW theory and IPCC deliberations suggest less extreme weather. Who is promoting this attribution meme?
"As climate change continues to create more frequent and devastating storms..."
This is quite simply a lie. So anyone who points out that it is a lie is a bad person and should have a storm named after them because the storm is partly their fault. Have I got that right?
kim twister.
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Lots of potential for fun:
Greenpeace, WWF, Friends of the Earth ...
Jesus, Budda, Mohammed, ...
Windy Worthington for starters...
Blizzard Jones
Hot Air Stern
This is one of those mean, petty ideas that come naturally to "progressives" and sound ideal to their agit-prop focused minds.
And like all their other ideas, it will turn out exactly the opposite of how they hoped.
Just think if they were to name a US East Coast storm "Hurricane Morano". Marc would use this as the perfect platform to publicly tear down the Greens' fact-free, alarmist nonsense. It's an invitation to make his points, issued by an opposition which has previously done nothing than to try and silence debate.
They'd be backtracking and trying to rename the storm even before it had make landfall........
This is a terrible idea. I hope they try it.
The Great Storm of 1987 would therefore have been called Hurricane Micheal Fish.
We are a small country. Just how many storms are to be expected at once?
This is the MetOffice trying to insinuate itself into the public conciousness. Self publicists who want the money to keep rollin' in.
In this PC society we live in, I would like to object to the UKMO naming low pressure systems on the grounds of sizeism.
To reflect multicultural Britain big storms could be named after foods:
Baked Bean
Vindaloo
Pickled egg
Sauer kraut
In this way, scaremongers could make entirely false comparisons with the amount of methane released from melting permafrost
Hmmm, not sure about this, I somehow doubt the Met Office would ever come up with such original names like Hurricane Bawbag which in Scotland became the accepted name for the storm in the media at least.
Richard Bradford is spot on.
What can possibly be in their heads?
I spent some time in shanghai and was christened gwai loh by some of my colleagues. It is somewhat pejorative (whitey or some thing similar.) I adopted it and it was how I introduced myself. It defused the insult and and possibly worked for me.
Wear your eponymous storms with pride deniers ;)
Mike Jackson said:
The most laughable thing about that is when they put the word 'super' before the name of storms that have weakened.
we need a storm called "VenusNotWarmerDueToCO2"
I think the first named storm should be storm "My Arse". I can hear it now......There will be a lot of heavy winds coming from My Arse, & My Arse is expected to dominate our weather for the next few days!" Said a Wet Office spokesperson!
Surely they all should be called Norman?
In view of IPCC AR5 & subsequent papers indicating ever diminishing storm energy/frequency - names could usefully be chosen here:-
http://www.catnamesmeow.com/cute-kitten-names.htm
Nothing new, UK and Northern European 'storms' have always been named:-
Extreme Wind Storms Catalogue
Just that in the past the names used to mean something. "The Great Storm of 1987" or "13 Jan 84" or "11 Feb 90" etc. Now we get meaningless handles "Anatol", "Fanny" or "Gero", surely you all at least remember "Fanny"?
Anyhow meet the team behind the Extreme Wind Storms Catalogue, our very own "Tempest Troika"!
Any surprises?
As a tangential observation/ comment, why does the meet office persist in redefining the starting date for the seasons? For example, on the First of September I happened to see several so called weather forecasts on the TV and they all opened with the fallacious statement that it was the first day of autumn. The first day of autumn this year falls on the 23rd of September.
Teacup.
John in cheshire, redefining the seasons at one's leisure has the convenient effect of giving more bites of the cherry when it comes to finding "records" in the data. Of course, I'm not suggesting for a second that the Met Office would ever do this wilfully.
They want to name storms after sceptics? Let them. They'll look even more silly than they do already when the storm season ends and there's been only half a dozen worthy of being named. The world will point and laugh asking 'what 'extreme' weather'? Has got 'own goal' all over it, this.
Any major storm that disconnects a generator from the National Grid should really be named after Milliband, Huhne or Davey in recognition of their contribution to energy insecurity.
Ooh ooh please, can I have one?
There was a light shower of rain last week in my locality, which perked up my fig trees, and for which I was very thankful - it saved me from having to go out and water them.
Could we call it the Steve McIntyre shower, please?
Hurricane Gavin just rolls off the tongue.
I'm with those who say that sceptic named storms would be a positive thing. Warmists shoot themselves in the foot every time they say 'sceptics think that climate change doesn't exist'. Even though that's not what we say, some of the public think that the moment something is officially denied it must be true.
Name storms after sceptics and the public will ask 'who's that and why are they famous?'
And if there are lots of storms, it will show that there are also quite a lot of "deniers" out there too...
The civil servants divination centre and handily placed no less, in a Labour constituency, oh yes they did - in Blair's labour fashioned puke green and very unpleasant land .......builded down Exeter way and full of wind at that.
Ye Gods! wait a minute............... 'divine' and 'wind'?
How about, the Wet Office presents its new, Kamikaze mission statements.
Eco nutters, sucking large on the taxpayer teat: that would show them up in a truer manifestation.
If they are going to be so infantile about it I hope weather forecasts would include an image, of the head of the named person, spinning around at the centre of the storm. A giant spinning Joe Bastardi laying waste to Florida. Piers, The crazy haired Corbyn brother ominously approaching New York.
I guess that's a picture of your place, Bish - Bishop's Rock lighthouse lighthouse by any chance?
Hi, Met Office .I like things nice an orderly. Can we call these storms Devastating Bastard 1, Devastating Bastard 2, etc?
Bish, you bought a lighthouse?
Well, that's your lookout!
There is obviously an attraction to giving full credit where it's due and calling events involving a lot of painful wind and damage to the economy, after those who have made policy led evidence making such a success.
So:-
The Sir John Houghton Storm
The Robert Napier Storm
The Julia Sligo Storm
The David Viner extreme snow event
The Richard Betts Cyclone
The Vicky Pope Predicted Storm
and so on.
But if their modesty precludes these suggestions, perhaps we might use the projected Climate Bunfights scheduled between now and December. See http://unfccc.int/meetings/unfccc_calendar/items/2655.php
After all, that is exactly and entirely what this proposal is all about.
So starting from yesterday, that would be:-
Santiago
Antananarivo
Bonn I
Bonn II
Durban
Santiago II
Bonn III
Antananarivo II
Bonn IV
Bonn V
Africa (tbc)
Marrakesh
Niamey
Bonn VI
Bonn VII
Bonn VIII
Manila
Bonn IX
Bonn X
Bonn XI
Bonn XII
Bonn XIII
Bonn XIV
and, of course then it is PARIS!
This approach would also assist our 'settled science' scaremongering chums to keep track of their expenses claims!
if storms are supposed to be caused by CO2 why not name them after the consumption of fossil fuel... then we would have bill gates storm , al gore storm , leonard di caprio storm and so on...
Hurricane BBC contract ending.
Brian, Dougal, Dylan, Ermintrude, Florence, Mr McHenry, Mr Rusty, Zebedee.
I'm taking this proposal with all the seriousness it deserves.
Mainstream Media factor 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
'Hurricane Hill' has a ring to it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/weather/11852073/Is-Britain-experiencing-extreme-weather-Yes.-Extremely-mild....html
Nice article poking fun at the idea of naming our weather events.
If they did want to name storms after sceptics they would score a big win.
Not by humiliation (the Streisand effect).
But because we'd all fall to fighting in jealous rage at those who had the honour.
Delingpole will be pleased if this suggestion is acted on. Coming near the beginning of the alphabet he would not have to wait too long before being immortalised by his very own storm!
Typhoon Nic Lewis, lowest logometric pressure on record.
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