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Jul302015
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Bishop Hill
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Look at what the Guardian put out the other day: an article by the head of Veolia UK protesting against the government's decision to slash subsidies for renewable energy and touting the idea of a "circular economy", in which a lot of recycling goes on.
Which is perhaps unsurprising for a business involved in connecting windfarms to the grid and with a subsidiary making large sums of money from recycling.
But a little hypocritical of a publication that gets uppity about alleged vested interests elsewhere.
Reader Comments (29)
Buuuuuut it's the right kind of Apple's and oranges hence the support they get from the BBC in print.
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Circular journalism is a great Grauniad creation. Their journalists write articles, with superfluous references to other articles written by each other. By this means they create their own spherical bubbles of belief. Outsiders refer to it all as balls.
The article was bad enough, but just one page of comments from the Grauniad faithful has put my blood pressure beyond dangerous levels...
Veolia, that's a familiar name. Isn't whatisname one of their directors? You know, the worthy individual who says he has "no investments whatsoever in renewables".
Unfortunately, the Guardian is little more than a group of climate extremists (and no doubt many other silly fads) using the money they got from Autotrader to finance a propaganda rag with no interest in readers pushing their extremist views ... at least until the money runs out.
Clealry some basic economics needs to be applied. If it ain't viable without subsidy, it doesn't work! They are upset that their sweeties have been confiscated! I fail to see how the energy bills will increase, if the very thing that causes them to increase disproportionately, is removed!
The Government must be doing something right, to generate so much unsustainable gas at the Guardian. A highly valuable but frequently ignored barometer, in Climate Science.
The higher the Guardian's gas pressure, the better for everyone else.
It seems Veolia has a cosy realtionship with the Guardian. Do they have a Advertorial contract every May each year ?
The Veolia Environment wildlife photographer of the year USED to be frequently mentioned until 2012Negative stories kindly don't mention Veloia's name in the headline
There are some other negative ones mabout Veloia getting fined for pollution..or controversial incinerator ... another incinerator in Leedsor - Jerusalem's long-awaited light railway splits opinion
the 2014, 2015 stories :
Promising business models for sustainable growth
- The Guardian May 13, 2014 - French water utility Veolia is making similar strides with its True Cost of Water programme, which sets out to put a price on direct and indirect water costs as well ...
Carbon case studies | Guardian Sustainable Business
- The Guardian Apr 30, 2015 - Sustainability case studies Veolia Environment finds value in rubbish. The waste contractor has even pioneered a way of dealing with street sweepings that
Could Veolia use their wide ranging skills, to recycle wind farms into something useful?
This may need more taxpayer funded subsidies, to prevent our green and pleasant land being littered with useless, unwanted, dark satanic windmills.
I am surprised that the Guardian's top investigative journalists have not written extensively about this environmental timebomb, being dumped by wealthy wolves in Green clothing, as a legacy of failed political interference.
The Guardian normally have such reliable access to insider sources, when they have propaganda to sell. What has gone wrong? Unless of course, the Guardians financial interests, outweigh the truth.
stewgreen, I thought only evil capitalists bought favourable editorial comment by placing their advertising with certain newspapers.
Do Veolia do the same as the BBC with their recruitment adverts, to make sure they only get the non-right sort of people?
Good find, stewgreen.
The btl comments have become virtually a sealed bubble of hot-air now that almost all dissenters have been banned. They're like asylum inmates talking to themselves.
Don't forget this from 2012.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/lord-deben-appointed-chair-of-committee-on-climate-change
{My emphasis]
Messenger, what a lucky coincidence for Veolia, Deben, Guardian, BBC etc, that they are all able to bring such mutually beneficial and favourable cards to the same table.
Paris in December should see the decks stacked with trees of lolly.
'But a little hypocritical of a publication that gets uppity about alleged vested interests elsewhere'
You mean like a publication which constantly attacks individuals and companies that uses off-shore but legal tax approaches, indeed so legal that the Guardains owners use exactly the same , but oddly no one at the Guardian has had a word , let alone a bad one , to say about that .
I can't decide which would be most sad - that people would behave shabbily for an undeserving cause or for a genuine one. Why are so many organisations losing sight of the fundamental right or wrong of how they conduct thmselves? Is it that they don't think they'll be found out or that they don't care either way?
My favorite quote from the article's posts:
"Intermittency matters not at all, because wind and solar are sufficiently predicatable to allow fossil fuel plants to be turned up/down as required."
So who needs coal/oil/gas?
I don't think I have come across "climate security" before - a new meme?
Philip Neal, I think climate security is a term designed to cause wonder, respect and amazement. However, it is so Top Secret and Classified, that even the person writing it, had absolutely no idea what it meant, and as it made no more sense than the rest of the article, who cares anyway?
Company Senior Executive VP complains in press about losing scads of free money.
How sad.
Is Katherine Viner supping from a poisoned chalice?
Guardian makes another loss of almost £20m
Another chunk of the group's fossil fuelled inheritance wafts away on the breeze
Robert Christopher;
That implies that the forecasts are accurate 3 days in advance (the start-up time for a cold coal fired station). I leave it to you to decide if you want to spend next winter at the mercy of the Met Office's accuracy.
Yes, fine, but what about the atmospheric trauma caused by windmills.
Activists unite! Fight the real enemy!
BTW today more convenient PR for Veolia
- The item only contains GreenBlob views no contrary ones..It's quotes a lot of NGO's views. "Analysts say" is a phrase he uses..Why doesn't he name them ? I suspect they trace back to the Greenpeace office.- the piece by Harrabin ostensively about an AA statement which hasn't even been released yet ..actually contains more lines about Veolia getting it's subsidies cut.
Note how that item ends by Harrabin quoting FoE
\\ Friends of the Earth say they suspect that the chancellor has been persuaded by the “luke-warmer” analysis //
Is this the first time BBC has mentioned “luke-warmer” & \\ "lukewarmism" // ?
Stew, yes, Horrorbin's at it again this morning on BBC radio 4. "Green groups say..."
Brute: "Yes, fine, but what about the atmospheric trauma caused by windmills."
I firmly believe that it is the windmills that are the cause of our cold weather at the moment. Almost freezing in rural Wales last night. Turn off those damn fans, they're causing windchill!
Another Advertorial was on BBC Radio with Green Energy trader biz gettting 8 minutes of free advertising.
Title : Sharing (the subsidies everyone else pays for) Economy
#1 from 3:00m : TrillionFund matching renewable energy projects "a lot of people who already had a lot of money have done very well out of it" ..she is talking about the subsidies
#2 6:00m : @Vandebron"it's E100-E150/cheaper from us than from big companies)..Breaks the "too good to be true " rule
#3 8:44-11m : OpenUtility claims old energy corps are dinosaurs. Strange to me since they do know how to make good profits.
BTW 2 year old Letter to Telegraph showed susbsidy biz protesting against cuts they anticipated ..So the new 2015 policy is not a surprise to them.
- Surely a sharing eonomy website really is a "COMMISSION TAKING" website and so a competitive market should drive its profits down close to zero ? (know what I mean UberCab, AirBnB etc ?)
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- Another Advertorial ComputerWorld is also ridiculously overhyping renewables
A commenter points out there was GUARDIAN STEALTH EDIT
"No the strapline was not there when the article was originally posted. It was added over half a day later due to people raising the point of partiality and not disclosing her position. You owe MarkPawelek an apology."
.....in replyt to a commenter saying the article did say the writer is Senior Executive Vice-President for Veolia.