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May262015
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Bishop Hill
Bishop Hill Uberhubering
May 26, 2015 Climate: WG2 I commend to BH readers Chris Hope's Twitter output this morning. Chris is at a climate conference in Stockholm at the moment, where delegates are being royally entertained by somebody called Matt Huber, from Purdue University. Huber shows that if you assume crazy things on climate sensitivity and crazy things on emissions you can come up with some truly crazy predictions. His talk is apparently generating "intense interest". I have made some excerpts from Chris's tweets below.
I think we should refer to this approach as "uberhubering".
Reader Comments (35)
Check out Mathew Huber's Climate Dynamics Prediction Laboratory:
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~huberm/Matthew_Hubers_Climate_Dynamics_Prediction_Laboratory/CDPL.html
A little Huberistic?
I don't know why, but when I load pages containing all the twitters which you put up, they vanish from sight after about 5 seconds.
Just wondering - is there any connection at all between these people and the real world?
All that talk of steam and huge temperature rises has gone to his head apparently - or some other part of his anatomy.
ON the last tweet...Frighten the sheeple with mass immigration as a reason not to burn coal. Interesting slant.
#complete_cobblers
And this guys walks the streets unattended?
confused, The immigration point is critical for the scare.
It's obvious that most of the rich countries need a bit more heat - he even uses Sweden as an example.
So this is just another "poor people in Africa are suffering" story. And we know that the best way to deal with that is to stop them being poor. That doesn't involve worrying about living in a Chinese Laundry.
Thus, even in a science fiction dystopia, he needs to exaggerate to make AGW a problem worth prioritising over poverty reduction.
I'll re-phrase that:
To induce some moral education in your people we used to tell Fairy Stories which were until the Victorians deballed them real horror stories. Now we tell Climate Change scenarios with 2 sets of balls.
The IPCC says that:
Huber goes further, but there seems to be confusion as to whether we're burning 1000-5000GT of fossil fuels or the amount that would release that amount of 'carbon'. In either case, I figure it would take quite a few life-times to burn all that, by which time I have faith in man's technological advances to have come up with a form of energy that did not rely on f-f.But that's not on the agenda with people like Huber: all they see is catastrophe. He is the epitome of a shroud waver.
My favourite tweets so far
1) "Day 1 recap: GCM experiment showing a huge jump in ECS from 2degC to 6 degC for the 4th doubling of CO2 concentration"
2) "Myles Allen says they weren't wrong to reduce bottom end of ECS range down to 1.5 degC even if studies were too simple."
My interpretation of these is 1) Death and destruction will rain down on humanity and 2) Myles Allen doesn't want to be sent to an asylum with the others.
(Apologies for longish comment/quote) This was the 2009 article by Monbiot claiming that we should leave 'carbon' in the ground, and quoting Myles Allen etc. in the Guardian. It covers the way they have calculated reserves of FF in the earth:
Which seems a long way from Huber's fantasy that it will take 5,000GT to raise the temp by 10 deg. I wonder what calculation Huber used.son of mulder: ... Death and destruction will rain down on humanity . Indeed.
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If my uncle had .......
If my aunt had.......
So we're all going to die, right?
these are the new well paid catholic bishops discussing how many angels can dance on a pin
anyway there IS the precautionary principle (as well as sound investing ) which demands:
-massive investment in nuclear
-stop all immigration
-stop subsidizing babies or any population growth (eg 3rd world "help")
-run the economy as efficient as possible (small state)
-wash away economic excesses (eg billionaires and their yachts and jets, and all big houses extra council tax)
Note these are all things the Champagne Left will be AGAINST
It is really good to know that global warming has run out of science, and is back to silly and outrageous scaremongering.
Climate science credibility could fall further, than previously thought possible.
It's nice to know these old fashioned no-holds bars alarm about anything and everything people are not entirely extinct.
The world would be a much less colourful place if people like that disappeared entirely.
I hope they brought t-shirt and shorts so they not overheated here in Sweden.
http://www.smhi.se/en/weather/sweden-weather/observations#
May month anomaly from normal 1961 - 1990.
http://www.smhi.se/klimatdata/meteorologi/kartor/showImg.php?par=tmpAvv
I live in Darwin Australia. In November our average maximum is 33 degrees Celsius, our minimum is 25.3 degrees Celsius our relative humidities are between 60 and 70 percent? I am not sure what wet bulb temperature this is but it's f...ing hot. Yet we all survive (I even live in a non- air conditioned house), get some work done, and even quite like it.
pekke - ta for the links. I just had a look at your link to the Swedish SMHI weather stations. I noticed that 16 of the 40 are at airports - you have all those forests and uninhabited countryside, and SMHI decides to use stations highly susceptible to UHI...
May has been colder than average here in Scotland also. Not as cold as it was in 2013 though.
Methinks Mr (Dr?) Huber has not been taking his medication.
Neither have the audience.
Obviously he's a care in the community type, the community being academia.
Pointman
I know I shouldn't have, but I did google Matt Huber. He has Hockey Team facial hair, and is photographed with known Hockey Team associates.
His climate science convictions, are on record, and no trial has yet confirmed hs ability to be right.
Michael Hart,
Eventually, yes.
Just not from climate change.
"The world would be a much less colourful place if people like that disappeared entirely." --MikeHaseler
But a much safer one.
"Matt Huber thinks implications of heat stress results is mass migrations of 2 billion people out of worst affect areas #StockholmSCC"
It's even worse than that, because the inability to work apparently persists even after moving to a cold climate. The median time before a 'refugee' to Sweden from the Middle East or Africa starts working is eight years.
tty:
Boy, you'd think they'd never leave the Arcadia of the Middle East and Africa at all where evidently no-one has to work.
yr. Grace:
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I presume "anonym" (sounds Swedish by the way) considers my comment as racism. However it is based on official Swedish statistics. And even to reach this figure one hour per week is considered sufficient to be "at work". After fifteen years the proportion "at work" reaches 65%, still with the same somewhat lenient definition.
And trying to hide the truth is the precise reason why the left will not return to power in my lifetime!
One of the valuable tools any group if self respecting group of kiwi lads had (as I was growing up) was the use of "taking the p1ss" out of anyone who said something stupid.
It was a great way of ensuring anything dumb was corrected almost immediately and would be hugely beneficial within academia and climate science!
Think about it. Here is something being said that is so blatantly screwed up that every scientist worth their weight on salt should immediately be taking not only large chunks of p1ss out of this guy but they should also be slapping him across his forehead to reinforced who dumb he is being!
Sadly, as this is climate science everyone just sits around thoughtfully looking at each other as if this clowns mutterings are actually meaningful.
Mailman
'In India today it is 49 degC with 70% humidity '
has it has been many times over history and yet India today still has over a billion people living there.
Amazing how we unable to do the things we could do in the past despite modern technology .
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