Monday
May182015
by 
Bishop Hill
Bishop Hill With apologies to Joel Pett
May 18, 2015 Climate: WG2 Climate: WG3 Ethics ;)
I found myself thinking about a well-known climate change cartoon by Joel Pett, and wondered if the wording didn't need to be changed slightly (original here). The words on the left come from the Climategate emails.
Reader Comments (25)
A brilliant cartoon, in both the original version, and the updated version.
I don't expect the Green Luvvies comprehend the updated version, as they are still stuck in the mindset of the original.
Idealist dreams, meet pithy reality.
The climate change industry is doing its best ahead of Paris to ensure that the world doesn't realise that man-made climate change is a big scam that has caused untold damage to the environment and has caused massive loss of life and illness.
Don't think there is a need to apologise...
Philip: The Club of Rome elite may believe there are Limits to Growth, but they know there are no limits to death - nor to their consciences (DDT v malaria, anyone?)
Plenty of other titles that could be added to the list
Making Environmentalists wealthy
Making unpleasant politicians very wealthy
How else could climate "scientists" be employed
Increase deaths in cold weather
Keeping the Third World in poverty
* Millions of people terrified and thrown into unnecessary panic
* Billions of pounds wasted
* Genuine environmental problems ignored due to climate hysteria
Note the bullet point on the original:
LIVABLE CITIES
Tiny footnote: "which will be the only places you will be allowed to live without a license" (AGENDA 21)
Philip Bratby is right. How much more mileage can alarmists wring out of a theory that has failed and a climate catastrophe that is just not happening? One day a new political figure (PM, president or whoever) from a major nation will arrive on the scene and simply draw a line under this total nonsense.
As for alarmists, maybe this time they're right; Paris really could be their 'last chance'.
No. " They" won't kill the climate scientists. There will be too much blame sharing between the politicians and the media.
It will be interesting to see the public reaction to the Press Conference. That's the one where it is announced ," Things aren't as bad as we said". Climate scientists may find it prudent to take extended leave , however, at that time!
Not sure about death , those type of threats tend to come from the alarmists , but 'worse than death' is de funding and the crashing down of 'the cause' and the putting of climate 'science' back in to its 'what is it and way should we care' box , which may be a good thing for it in the long term.
And by worse than death , I means that in these cases you get to be around to watch your world crash down , your profession collapse and your ideology become a public joke.
There is no 'grand conspricy ' behind 'the cause' , the IPCC is not some 'evil organisation ', however there are a lot of vested interests whose future depends not on good science but on keeping the CAGW train firmly on track no matter what the science says.
Could Paris, as the 'last chance', not be rebilled, more similar to "Custer's Last Stand"?
I'd bet they are already arranging their next post-Paris jolly. They don't even need to update their speeches from the last few times since they all just repeat the same mantra - 'governments must act'. Precisely how to act without doing more harm than good is something they never even bother to think about because they sanctimoniously delude themselves that universal utopia is just being held back by nasty multinationals and their evil henchmen spreading contrarianism. Confront them with costs versus benefits, realistic priorities or unintended consequences and they just run away with hands over their ears, crying 'burn the heretic'.
Now, now, Bish, you know how suggesting that cutting CO2 has downsides upsets warmists. They only want soft, fluffy things to happen and anythng bad has to be our fault.
* Earache due to constant loud green droning at the BBC.
Josh, you have acknowledged Joel Pett's cartoon as your inspiration, as is only right and proper.
But, with all respect due you, the clichéd wording of your acknowledgement goes too far. The man deserves neither apology nor respect. His original effort was mere pissing in the Pierian springs, misrepresenting the issues, derailing honest debate, and deceiving many.
" what if climate change appears to be just mainly a multidecadal natural fluctuation ?"
Hard as decadal modelling may be , the climate record of the past full century relegates this recaption to the realm of the counterfactual
I do not think you folks are facing up to reality:
Right now there is no global agreement on tackling climate change but this has not stopped the EU, the UN or Cameron from launching ever more stupid policies that cost us all ever increasing amounts of money. Paris is just a side show.
Thank you for this, Josh!
The original cartoon's wilful ignoring of the bad effects of energy deprivation always gets on my nerves. I have occasionally wished I could do what you just did.
In the original the key words are "for nothing" as though the cost is insignificant.
Coffee Time (4:10PM). I don't think this is by Josh. I think the Bish has been editing and improving the original cartoon himself. And excellent improvements they are.
The original was trite, and merely reflected the wishful thinking and make-believe of some climate campaigners. Theirs is a narrow focus, and well-equipped with blinkers and sundry devices to keep criticism, not to mention reality, at bay. Their intentions, for the most part, are good in the sense that all leftwing initiatives can marshall good intentions in their defence.
If indeed it becomes well-established that we have been experiencing a predominantly 'natural' variation in climate, then 'we meant well' will surely be part of the excuses for those campaigners with a conscience and who are not too busy with whatever becomes the next big deal for them. We have had the 'working class', and we are still having the 'environment', but hopefully not for much longer. Both have done well out of industrial progress, and both have prospects of doing even better provided the left are kept at bay.
The Conference of Parties - COP21 in Paris should really be called 'Continuation Of Pause - 21 (years on some measures)'
Is Paris dead in the water already?
“The two sides urged the developed countries to raise their pre-2020 emission reduction targets and honour their commitment to provide $100bn (￡64bn) per year by 2020 to developing countries,” the statement said.
While both countries stopped short of making any commitments, they said they would submit their respective plans to curb greenhouse gas emissions well before crucial global climate talks are held in Paris later this year.
http://en.ccchina.gov.cn/Detail.aspx?newsId=52623&TId=131%22%20title=%22China%20and%20India%20call%20on%20rich%20countries%20to%20step%20up%20climate%20change%20efforts
It's old but worth repeating. The course of action taken shows that the children of the poor are meant to die so the children of the rich inherit a better world. And if it turns out that the world does not need "bettering", it is the children of the poor the ones that died.
"The original was trite, and merely reflected the wishful thinking and make-believe of some climate campaigners. "
That is a hazard of the course, but it's good the Bish has seen the light on recycling tendentious cartoons.
John Shade, thank you. I assumed. I now see that there is no attribution by Josh. In that case, kudos to our host. :)