Tuesday
Mar242015
by Bishop Hill
Guardian mob attacks: reports were accurate
The BBC has interviewed an eyewitness to the Guardian mob attack on Nigel Farage and has confirmed the accuracy of the original reports:
There was lots of noise and kerfuffle. It was harassment, there was no reasoning with them.
Enough to frighten the living daylights out of a ten-year old I would have thought.
Reader Comments (34)
Of course, these people are not like Brown shirts. For one thing, their attire is different.
Of course, you realise that when the world has to be saved, normal standards of civilised behaviour cannot be applied to our saviours. Think of the children? Collateral damage on the way to destroying an infernal obstacle! 'Twere ever thus.
Those children were "lost" anyway, you know.
Apart from the intimidation the point is to parade moral superiority. I think they failed in the latter at least.
These crowds are ignorant donkeys who'd bay at a potato if told it was bad, led by jackals (often paid agitators who don't themselves get involved).
Given the level of police surveillance of many people in our country, did they have prior knowledge of what happened to Mr Farage,his family and all those present in the pub? If they did, why were they not present to provide protection?
At least the BBC does have a report on it, even if in an obscure part. I have yet to see it reported on the mainstream, though. Odd, that.
It might sink into the handlers of these mobs that they have scored an own-goal, but will their charges ever independently reach that conclusion? Indeed, will their charges ever independently think!
@john in cheshire
That's an excellent point. As the greens often say, we live in a police state bought by trillions of dollars from BigOil. Consequently, either the police were in on it or, hold on to your pants, none of this actually happened.
Aliens did it.
Radio 5 have helpfully revealed the name of the witness.
Betting on harassment of him next?
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A cursory glance and this story is a slightly daft flash mob giving it to a gobby politician. On closer inspection it's revealed at least 3 are some-time Guardian writers, another is a Guardian-approved photographer and the entire episode has been planned and instigated quite deliberately. It's not unreasonable to conclude the Guardian thus knew full-well what was planned. Had there been a consequence - say the driver had panicked and drove over the threatening crowd, killing that little kid, then whose responsible?
Btw, had they pulled this stupid stunt on Cameron his close protection team would've had a thing or two to say. The entire episode is completely bonkers, and the Guardian owes Nigel Farage a deeply grovelling apology.
As RR says, they have scored an own-goal.
As Napoleon said, never interfere with an enemy when he is in the process of making a mistake.
I'm not suggesting anything but I can see that the local police are likely to be a lot more sympathetic to Nigel and his policies than they are to Glass and his cronies. So at the end of the day no real harm done and "ordinary people" get a result, yes?
It would have been nice to have seen a couple of arrests for breach of the peace, though.
"As RR says, they have scored an own-goal."
I don't know Mike, it's barely been reported in the MSM. I wonder what we'd have seen in the MSM if a bunch of shaven headed EDLers had surrounded Ed Miliband and shouted abuse at him. Has Nigel Farage complained to the police? does anyone know? Or, does he have to? Do the police have the obligation to investigate what is really physical harassment and bullying. They probably won't because preventing the harassment and jostling of right-wing politicians probably isn't on their list of targets.
It hurts me to say this, but trying to pin it on the Guardian is a tad too far. These are zero-hour contractors (funny that) to the paper, which seems to give anyone a shot at articles provided they're loopy enough, and as such it's a bit of a stretch to say the management must have known, or been part of it, or approved of it.
Let's have a "28-gate" type list of those involved.
Dan Glass is now a household name for all the wrong reasons, but Polish anarchist Ewa Jasiewicz was very much to the fore amongst the "anti-frackers" down at Balcombe - possibly because of her "prominent chest" and her impossible surname !
Plenty of the others have "form" too. As Cheshire Red points out, the Grauniad connection occurs far too often to be ignored.
I would agree with @geronimo that the Guardian shouldn't be held responsible for the attack, but it did print a loathsome piece by Suzanne Moore in which she seemed to take the mob at their own evaluation as a harmless cabaret of diversity, and regretted only that the incident would allow Farage to "play" the victim while he apparently "spends most of his time attacking the vulnerable" (by which I assume she doesn't mean the European Union).
The whole concept of "direct action" is deeply flawed, intellectually and morally. The Home Secretary would do well to urge the police to do their duty, arrest by the bucket-load, and then the courts can send the scoundrels down for lengthy periods. I wonder if Dan Glass and those like him would be so keen on their "direct action" if they knew there was a fairish chance of catching 3 to 5 years in prison; unpleasant in itself; life, relationships, work, seriously disrupted, perhaps irreparably.
Turns out it was a Green Activist who alerted the mob as to the whereabouts of Farage:
http://order-order.com/2015/03/24/ukip-protesters-organised-by-green-lobbyist/
The MSM may be ignoring this story but predictably Breitbart London have no less than 4 blogs running on it, the latest this morning, by Alex Wickham.
As we're all being fair to the Grauniad, this is only because they are highly embarrassed by the adverse comments they are receiving.
This is very much an own goal for the loony left.
Twitter Greens have found a Bury St Edmunds UKIP candidate with the same name ..it would be too bizarre to be true to find him in a Kent pub so I don't think its the same guy
I understand that Farage's two children ran away in fear. Why is this not being picked up by the usual rentamob child-protection brigade who at every other opportunity in every other walk of life are baying for blood for more laws to be brought in to "protect" children in society? Two children of a prominant politician are scared by a ranting mob & nobody says a dickie-bird! Seems they only want to complain when it is convenient!
What I still don't understand is the lack of police action. One wrong word on Twitter and the sound of jackboots is in your future. Dare to use one of the fashionably proscribed words and you can be certain of being 'offered advice' (ie intimidated), or worse, by your local PC PC.
So why aren't young master Glass and his cronies being given the Carter and Regan treatment down at the local nick?
There are serious questions to be asked about this case, starting with who is protecting whom - and on whose instructions?
28gate you mean this pack of crud?
BBC Television Centre, London
Specialists:
Robert May, Oxford University and Imperial College London
Mike Hulme, Director, Tyndall Centre, UEA
Blake Lee-Harwood, Head of Campaigns, Greenpeace
Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, Niels Bohr Institute, Copenhagen
Michael Bravo, Scott Polar Research Institute, University of Cambridge
Andrew Dlugolecki, Insurance industry consultant
Trevor Evans, US Embassy
Colin Challen MP, Chair, All Party Group on Climate Change
Anuradha Vittachi, Director, Oneworld.net
Andrew Simms, Policy Director, New Economics Foundation
Claire Foster, Church of England
Saleemul Huq, IIED
Poshendra Satyal Pravat, Open University
Li Moxuan, Climate campaigner, Greenpeace China
Tadesse Dadi, Tearfund Ethiopia
Iain Wright, CO2 Project Manager, BP International
Ashok Sinha, Stop Climate Chaos
Andy Atkins, Advocacy Director, Tearfund
Matthew Farrow, CBI
Rafael Hidalgo, TV/multimedia producer
Cheryl Campbell, Executive Director, Television for the Environment
Kevin McCullough, Director, Npower Renewables
Richard D North, Institute of Economic Affairs
Steve Widdicombe, Plymouth Marine Labs
Joe Smith, The Open University
Mark Galloway, Director, IBT
Anita Neville, E3G
Eleni Andreadis, Harvard University
Jos Wheatley, Global Environment Assets Team, DFID
Tessa Tennant, Chair, AsRia
BBC attendees:
Jana Bennett, Director of Television
Sacha Baveystock, Executive Producer, Science
Helen Boaden, Director of News
Andrew Lane, Manager, Weather, TV News
Anne Gilchrist, Executive Editor Indies & Events, CBBC
Dominic Vallely, Executive Editor, Entertainment
Eleanor Moran, Development Executive, Drama Commissioning
Elizabeth McKay, Project Executive, Education
Emma Swain, Commissioning Editor, Specialist Factual
Fergal Keane, (Chair), Foreign Affairs Correspondent
Fran Unsworth, Head of Newsgathering
George Entwistle, Head of TV Current Affairs
Glenwyn Benson, Controller, Factual TV
John Lynch, Creative Director, Specialist Factual
Jon Plowman, Head of Comedy
Jon Williams, TV Editor Newsgathering
Karen O’Connor, Editor, This World, Current Affairs
Catriona McKenzie, Tightrope Pictures catriona@tightropepictures.com
As many others have pointed out, this “own-goal” does seem to have been played to an empty stadium that had been crowded up to the moment of the goal. This could be an indication of who the handlers of these mobs are and what powers they have.
VNWDCo2
Thanks for that.
It was always Li Moxuan from "Greenpeace China" that was so unbelievably incongruous !
Now if they'd asked "the Bish" instead ............
UKIP is in self-destruct mode anyway!
Dan Glass is a greenie activist funded by Unite and a range of Labour luvvies.
Bring it on, Dan is discrediting himself and his support a lot more than he is discrediting Ukip.
The ringleaders need to be charged with Public Order offences.
No debate - they are criminals and need to be treated as such.
They are clearly tossers but isn't the latest UKIP Candidate to be sacked, a criminal too (allegedly).
Mar 24, 2015 at 5:39 PM | Steve
Well, to be sure, if the LibLabs and Greenies had to apply the same standards they'd have no members!
"Guardian owes Nigel Farage a deeply grovelling apology." --cheshirered
The only appropriate apology would be shutting that effete fish-wrapper down. Budgies all over the UK will be discommoded.
@Jack Cowper
Activist/Activism is the new "in" activity for the the new "Grass root protesters"
the Guardian mob just want to add to/be included in the "cause",
the Activists rule & the Guardian thinks it speaks for the people (what a bunch of twits)
bottom line - high 5s at the Guardian for the "Activists" against the nasty pols/job creators & the people that worry our country is going down the drain fast.
streetcred depending on ur def of member they do not have members allready
The Guardian seems to be following in the footsteps of the BBC and following the trend of MSM of not just reporting the news, but actually acting as a catalyst to create the news, all in the image of their own prejudice.