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Saturday
Nov142015

Looney green tunes

Just when you thought our environmentalist friends couldn't become any more absurd, they have to go and outdo themselves. The editor of the Ecologist, Westminster and Oxford educated Oliver Tickell, son of the equally silly and equally posh Crispin Tickell (also Westminster and Oxford), has just written a post arguing that the Paris terrorist attacks were intended to disrupt the COP21 climate talks, driving up oil prices and putting petrodollars in the pockets of ISIS. Oh yes, and western oil interests were probably in on it too.

So, assuming - as seems probable at this stage - that the Paris outrage was carried out by or for ISIS, was it in any way motivated by a desire to scupper a strong climate agreement at COP21? And so maintain high demand for oil long into the future, together with a high oil price?

Let's just say that it could have been a factor, one of several, in the choice of target and of their timing. And of course ISIS was not necessarily acting entirely on its own. While not alleging direct collusion between ISIS and other oil producing nations and companies, it's not hard to see a coincidence of interests.

Blimey, he's so bonkers you half expect Paul Nurse to try to squeeze him into the Royal Society alongside Ehrlich.

 

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Blooper alert boss!
You said COP20 instead of COP21.

[Ta - fixed]

Nov 14, 2015 at 9:27 PM | Registered CommenterDung

The BBC and SKY both mentioned this possibility as well and it represents the most pathetic attempt to gain sympathy for their ideas that I have ever seen.

Nov 14, 2015 at 9:31 PM | Registered CommenterDung

" Let's just say that it could have been a factor, one of several, in the choice of target and of their timing. And of course ISIS was not necessarily acting entirely on its own. While not alleging direct collusion between ISIS and other oil producing nations and companies, it's not hard to see a coincidence of interests."

And sceptics of catastrophic global warming are accused of being conspiracy theorists? Jeez, the person responsible for the above statement needs help, I suggest consulting an electrician, there is a serious wiring fault.

Maybe take Stephan with him, good chance of a bogof.

PS - "Lets just NOT say" carries far more credence and credibility than the above kite flying.

Chances of '403' now high!

Nov 14, 2015 at 9:42 PM | Registered CommenterGreen Sand

Yet it's the Climate realists who are accused of harbouring conspiracy theories!

Nov 14, 2015 at 9:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterAdam Gallon

No catastrophe is too severe for the left not to exploit it for their political purposes. Tickell stands on the corpses of the dead in Paris to trumpet his silly cause. It is indecent.

Nov 14, 2015 at 9:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterGamecock

Well I might have suggested that the warmists would use the terrorist attack as a fig leaf to hide their abject failure to secure an agreement but I'd not dare to suggest they organised it to try and force reluctant countries to act. But then my tin foil hat isn't too tight.

Nov 14, 2015 at 10:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

That article by Tickell replaces all previous low points in climate science. I can only hope that if/when COP 21 does happen, a formal apology is made, if not it can head the epitaph to climate science.

A clear indication of how desperately deranged the Green Blob has become, in the absence of science.

All they ever had to do was find some proof.

Sociopaths trying to benefit from psychopaths.

Nov 14, 2015 at 10:10 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

It's more likely that the UN & many participants are looking for any excuse to 'postpone' COP21 in the light of already-public disagreements, in order to save face from eventual failure to reach agreement.

Nov 14, 2015 at 10:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe Public

I was wondering who'd be the first. No shame!

Nov 14, 2015 at 10:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterJamesG

He has just reinforced the case for shale gas, and the urgency for the oil rich arab states to turn on their own countrymen who finance ISIS.

Tickell has just increased the size of the dark cloud hanging over Paris, COP 21, climate science, Green Blob, US Govt, UK Govt, French Govt and others.

Paris will be a good place to bury climate science, thanks to Tickell.

Nov 14, 2015 at 10:30 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

So... they decided to attack Paris to stop the climate talks... by attacking the week before, and not during the actual meeting?

Did Global Warming make their calendars run a week fast?

Maybe that extra half-a-degree C overheated the brains of the terrorists and confused them into attacking?

Or were the ISIS thugs bought off by Big Oil?

So hard to tell, nowadays.

Nov 14, 2015 at 10:31 PM | Unregistered Commentercirby

Sadly history tells us that despots use anything and everything to abuse reality so as to prop up their self justification. Their beliefs simply cannot be challenged and if they are - then those that challenge must either be mentally ill or some sort of terrorist intent on destroying the belief system that supports the despots.

To an outsider such hubris and deception is almost as laughable as it is unbelievable. And if you dare to challenge then you quickly get labelled with an abusive term - "Denier" is a clear example.

But to the despot - it all this abuse of other individuals seems to make sense, it is easily justified by their absolute belief. And this is because they are now only attached to reality by a thin thread that gets thinner with every bizarre juxtaposition.

But History also tells us that when such despots reach the end of their "time" - they get increasingly desperate, bizarre and divorced from common sense.

This outburst by Tickell is indicative of their mind set.

Nov 14, 2015 at 10:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterDougUK

I can conceive of links between ISIS and forces in other oil producing states.

But this obviously has nothing to do with COP21. It's the wrong month.

Besides, this in the last few weeks ISIS have killed 135 Russian plane passengers and 129 French civilians... that's a unifying compendium of trouble.
ISIS and their allies will have more urgent problems than climate change very soon.

Nov 14, 2015 at 10:51 PM | Registered CommenterM Courtney

France foreign minister Laurent Fabius says the COP21 climate summit will start as planned on November 30 but with boosted security

http://www.climatechangenews.com/2015/11/14/france-to-review-cop21-security-post-paris-terror-attacks/

Nov 14, 2015 at 10:59 PM | Unregistered Commenteresmiff

Frankly I'm surprised Al Gore isn't the one suggesting an oil conspiracy to disrupt his 24 hours of climate tedium reality broadcast.

Nov 14, 2015 at 11:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterSundance

May one then assume that as part of this belief the good Mr Oliver is advocating the complete and utter cold, merciless destruction of the Islamic state?

Or just the oil companies?

Nov 14, 2015 at 11:05 PM | Unregistered Commenterjones

I can think of a much better way to disrupt COP21.

Wait 2 weeks until Nov 30 and attack Le Bourget...

Nov 14, 2015 at 11:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterDodgy Geezer

The privileged elite justifying the actions of nutters?

Nepotism in full bloom!

Nov 14, 2015 at 11:11 PM | Registered CommenterGreen Sand

...Blimey, he's so bonkers you half expect Paul Nurse to try to squeeze him into the Royal Society alongside Ehrlich....

Actually, It's quite a clever post.

He's claiming that the ISIS attacks are 'intended to make it harder for the talks to succeed' (quite why, he doesn't say).

So that he can claim, when the talks fail, that they would have succeeded but for military action from a Big Oil funded organisation. Really!!

Nov 14, 2015 at 11:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterDodgy Geezer

While not alleging direct collusion between ISIS and other oil producing nations and companies, we shall now do exactly that by pointing out the obvious (to all of us in our pointy tinfoil hats) coincidence of interests, wink-wink, nudge-nudge. And do these noises in my head bother you?

Nov 14, 2015 at 11:14 PM | Unregistered Commenterjorgekafkazar

Jorge

"And do these noises in my head bother you?"

No, my tinfoil hat keeps most of them out.

Thanks for asking though.

Nov 14, 2015 at 11:21 PM | Unregistered Commenterjones

Err doesn't the green blob have "coincidence of interests" in wanting high oil prices? They need high oil prices to make renewables look cheaper.

Nov 14, 2015 at 11:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterTerryS

It's not Paul nurse he needs, but it definitely is a nurse.

Nov 14, 2015 at 11:33 PM | Unregistered CommenterDocBud

Sundance :

"Frankly I'm surprised Al Gore isn't the one suggesting an oil conspiracy to disrupt his 24 hours of climate tedium reality broadcast."

Really? Turning to the climate tedium channel, I'm not surprised to read

<I>OUT OF SOLIDARITY WITH THE FRENCH PEOPLE
AND THE CITY OF PARIS, WE HAVE DECIDED TO
SUSPEND OUR BROADCAS , OUR THOUGHTS ARE
WITH ALL WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED AND THE
ENTIRE NATION</I>

Nov 15, 2015 at 12:10 AM | Unregistered CommenterRussell

I hope Oliver will pause for breath and collect his thoughts over the weekend so he can treat/regale everybody to a detailed and insightful full exposé of how this dastardly business was orchestrated - I look forward to it - perhaps he can get his chum Jonah Porritt and the Juniper to back him up.

Mad posh twerp should be in an I love me jacket - trouble is - the idea is obviously gaining traction with other addled f-wits around the planet and the braying donkeys are out in force on Twitter. I fully expect my local chapter of the Green Party anti-fracking loons to latch onto this one - they've swallowed everything else....

Nov 15, 2015 at 12:30 AM | Registered Commentertomo

The purile nonsense in his 'association' just shows the brain rot now infesting watermellons. No warming. No SLR acceleration. Polar ice recovering. No increase in weather extremes (although warmunists keep trying).

Nov 15, 2015 at 12:36 AM | Unregistered CommenterRud Istvan

Sir Crispin Tickell would like to see the UK population reduced by 2/3.


"He is also a patron of population concern charity Population Matters, (formerly known as the Optimum Population Trust), and told Radio 4's Today programme that the ideal population for Britain could be around 20 million. As a member of Lord Rogers' Urban Task Force, Tickell counselled against spreading cities saying that we need denser living, that young adults should not expect to leave home straight away, and that older relatives could live in 'granny flats'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispin_Tickell#Public_Impact


Crispin Tickell, member of the eugenics Huxley clan. (mentor to George Monbiot)


Sir Crispin (Tickell) was President of the Royal Geographical Society from 1990 to 1993 and Warden of Green College, Oxford between 1990 and 1997, where he appointed George Monbiot and Norman Myers as Visiting Fellows.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispin_Tickell

Nov 15, 2015 at 12:40 AM | Unregistered Commenteresmiff

Brendon O'Neill has a piece up at Spiked laying into the tsunami of progressive BS that Oliver's deranged and toxic twaddle forms part of.

Nov 15, 2015 at 12:57 AM | Registered Commentertomo

Errr... Would that be the oil price that is currently at an all time high due to LACK of climate regulation?

He should get out in the real world a bit more or possibly considering his statements a good deal less.

Nov 15, 2015 at 1:10 AM | Unregistered CommenterGraeme No.3

Only deniers don't need to look behind their backs. It's all explained at length in credible blogs like DeSmog, RealClimate, and Skeptical Science.

Nov 15, 2015 at 1:21 AM | Unregistered CommenterAila

Hey Aila/Alexander, have you converted from your petrolheadism, or are you just exploring how sarcasm works?

Nov 15, 2015 at 1:50 AM | Registered Commenterflaxdoctor

Captured on the wayback machine in case they come to their senses and remove the article

Nov 15, 2015 at 1:57 AM | Unregistered CommenterRich

Lest we forget ...
.
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
.
The war on terror, that campaign without end launched 14 years ago by George Bush, is tying itself up in ever more grotesque contortions. On Monday the trial in London of a Swedish man, Bherlin Gildo, accused of terrorism in Syria, collapsed after it became clear British intelligence had been arming the same rebel groups the defendant was charged with supporting.

The prosecution abandoned the case, apparently to avoid embarrassing the intelligence services. The defence argued that going ahead with the trial would have been an “affront to justice” when there was plenty of evidence the British state was itself providing “extensive support” to the armed Syrian opposition.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq?CMP=twt_commentisfree-gdnopinion

Nov 15, 2015 at 2:30 AM | Unregistered Commenteresmiff

'Only deniers don't need to look behind their backs. It's all explained at length in credible blogs like DeSmog, RealClimate, and Skeptical Science.'

Tasty little begging the question fallacy, Aila.

Nov 15, 2015 at 2:47 AM | Unregistered CommenterGamecock

??

Nov 15, 2015 at 2:49 AM | Unregistered CommenterAila

Well, no matter what anyone says this event has managed to overshadow COP 21 - at least for now. But COP 21 @ Paris always did look like shaping up as a non event so this is as good a reason to put the blame as any to date.The truth of the matter is that Europe has a lot more on its hands of real concern than any imagined effect of an elevated level of atmospheric co2.

Nov 15, 2015 at 3:47 AM | Unregistered CommenterDouglas

Climate loony says loony thing ..not exactly a story.
What is the story ?
#1 Alarmists show they are dogmatic by once again failing to call out their own side.
NO open comments are allowed on the actual article itself..so that's a ding-a-ling
then when I check The Ecologists Facebook page I see the article was liked 414 times*, 8 positive comments, only 1 negative
Twitter - 50 retweets *, No criticism from alarmists
* many people on the internet aren't real people just bots..so retweets/likes are not always from humans.

#2 It reads like a green activist PR guy starting with his end punchline and building his story backwards from there.
And does he really care about CO2 ?
Note that ending punchline

"reach a strong agreement in Paris next month, sending a clear message to energy corporations and investors that oil and other fossil fuels are no longer a smart investment - and instead to put their resources into the clean, green, renewable energy technologies of the future."
Seems he's thinking about pushing Wind/Solar rather than actually cutting CO2 or logically targeting climate policy.

#3 BTW was his father yesterday ?
Headlining the UK biggest student climate activist brainwashing event Oxford Climate Forum
"Keynote Address 17:00 - 18:00 Sir Crispin Tickell , +Bill McKibben video address"

Nov 15, 2015 at 5:10 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Blimey, he's so bonkers you half expect Paul Nurse to try to squeeze him into the Royal Society alongside Ehrlich.
Please don't give them any ideas.

Nov 15, 2015 at 6:51 AM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

Where was the so-called investigative media when global cereal prices went bananas? How come the USA uber-hyped the price in a drive towards biofuel mandates? Don't expect any answers from any mainstream outlets - let alone any government department. Nobody voted for this. Instead, like UNHCR's recent appointment, it's imposed from within a self-fullfiling beaurocracy - tax-free too.

Nov 15, 2015 at 7:18 AM | Unregistered Commenterdc

Radio 4, 7.12 am or thereabouts. .....BBC chap talking about the Paris situation and the fact of COP21 coming up- but it's OK , it will take place because the activist greens have decided they will walk there...[shouldn't they be doing that anyway?]

This was immediately followed by a single unidentified vox pop of someone saying how vital COP21 is going to be because" climate change" is the most important challenge the world faces and we must act or there will be no planet left to save,

[The loud groaning noise you can hear is coming from me....]

Nov 15, 2015 at 8:59 AM | Unregistered CommenterMessenger

Aila is being sarcastic.
She must be.

I fell for it once too.
But if you look at her statements they are all just taking the Alarmist theme and reducing it to its simplest elements.
This is clever ridicule.

(I'm assuming that Aila is a feminine name).

Nov 15, 2015 at 9:05 AM | Registered CommenterM Courtney

esmiff @ 10.59

"...the COP21 climate summit will start as planned on 30 November but with boosted security."
See the current planned security arrangements at
http://www.cop21.gouv.fr/en/faq/§
"Security checks will take place at the entrance.
The following in particular will be prohibited: carrying blunt objects (knives, scissors, etc.), explosive substances (flammable aerosols, combustible materials, etc.) and all liquids, whatever their volume, nature and containers."

Nov 15, 2015 at 9:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterMike Post

Mike Post

I wonder if they'll be checking if delegates are emitting CO2.

Nov 15, 2015 at 9:15 AM | Unregistered Commenteresmiff

And CH4? . There will be plenty hot air emitted in any case.

Nov 15, 2015 at 9:40 AM | Unregistered CommenterSpectator

Tomo (Nov 15, 2015 at 12:57 AM)
I read the Brendan O'Neill piece you link to. While laying into the “tsunami of progressive BS that Oliver's deranged and toxic twaddle forms part of”, he manages to spout a load of even more deranged and toxic twaddle.
To Brendan, any criticism of racism, unemployment, or pointless and illegal wars can be interpreted as apology for terror. Any attempt to seek explanations is appeasement.
He claims to defend enlightenment values, and ends up shrieking: “Terrorists are horrid horrid HORRID and I don't want to know anything about them”.
He is the precise equivalent of the second rate second generation children of the 18th century Enlightenment (the real one) who ended up guillotining their own friends and family.

Nov 15, 2015 at 9:47 AM | Registered Commentergeoffchambers

One guy being interviewed claims the terrorists were carrying the AK47. Personally I would not be hanging around to look. But wouldn't it be eye opener if they were actually carrying M16 Assault rifles.

Nov 15, 2015 at 9:50 AM | Unregistered CommenterMartyn

esmiff
You mat be interested:-
http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

Nov 15, 2015 at 10:02 AM | Unregistered CommenterMartyn

Not being familiar with the Ecologist I thought I'd take a look at the website. FFS they're breeding, they have a dating section on their website where these eco-loons can meet other eco-loons.

Nov 15, 2015 at 10:12 AM | Unregistered CommenterJohn B

M Courtney what about the 43 civilians ISIS murdured in Beirut Thursday.

Nov 15, 2015 at 10:51 AM | Unregistered CommenterJamspid

I believe this was the clip you were looking for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C_Kh7nLplWo

Nov 15, 2015 at 10:57 AM | Unregistered CommenterIvor Ward

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