Bishop Hill The perils of delegation
Oct 8, 2015 Greens 
As a follow up to the last posting, consider this excerpt from the Guardian article by Client Earth director James Thornton (pictured above on a long-haul holiday):
The most obvious liabilities for companies and their directors relate to physical loss or damage. The residents of Tuvalu in the Pacific and Kivalina in Alaska, whose homes are disappearing beneath rising waters, have both threatened challenges against polluters.
Follow the Tuvalu link to its source and you find a national Geographic Article entitled:
Will Pacific Island Nations Disappear as Seas Rise? Maybe Not
and which contains this:
Some islands grew by as much as 14 acres (5.6 hectares) in a single decade, and Tuvalu's main atoll, Funafuti—33 islands distributed around the rim of a large lagoon—has gained 75 acres (32 hectares) of land during the past 115 years.
I wonder if Mr Thornton wrote the article himself?
Reader Comments (42)
as an emitter of CO2, I shall send an invoice to Tuvalu for those 75 acres I have helped them gain.
"The science linking extreme weather and climate change is gathering strength and many more such cases will surely follow."
This follows the Wet Office root of "no single weather event can be attributed to Climate Change, but yes, this is the sort of event we expect to see more of!" It's oh so easy to write this stuff, one just makes up enough scarey stories & eventually one day, one of them miht come true. I am amazed they still bang on about Hurricance Katrina as I thought that particular gem had been debunked ages ago! The damage caused bore little relation to it's power as a storm, but more to poor maintenance of infrastructure, which is something completely different, & most of New Orleans being below sea level!
Wow, island inflation.
First Tuvalu, then Threevalu then............
(With apologies to Victor Borge)
Kivalina in Alaska is on coastal islands that are inherently unstable. 100 yrs ago the Inuit would only camp there temporarily while hunting. The US government decided it was a swell place to make them settle down and put their village of actual houses. Now the island is washing away, but not due to sea level rise. It would only be fair to make the government pay to relocate them, since it forced them to be located there, but oil companies had nothing to do with it.
If only all Grauniad environmental reporting was as accurate as this.
Grauniad readers should sue the Grauniad for causing unnecessary stress, and corrupting child like minds.
I found this delightful irony on the Wiki entry for Tuvalu
I'll bet not many of the ecotourists sailed to Tuvalu, so that's a whacking big carbon footprint just for those precious ecotourists to even get there. Standard stuff among the class of people who want to keep the world pristine, but only so they can enjoy it without being troubled by us ugly proles.
I also learned that although one of the not-rich countries of the world
But, but,
The reason?
So it's free money, all the way down. And all the way back up again. I guess many others would probably do the same: If the rules don't suit, then find a political way to bend the rules.
michael hart, a lucrative industry in the islands, will be shed builders, building sheds at low tide, so ecotourists can film them falling into the water 6 hours later.
With a bit of floating shed, papier mache, white paint, and a stuffed polar bear cub, Guardian journalists will be able to write two stories for the price of one return air-ticket, without missing out on any of the luxuries of a well presented tropical lsland paradise.
This looks a bit out of date, too.. :-)
GC,
cargo cults return.
You don't get it: reality has nothing to do with the demands and tactics the climate kooks are pursuing and successfully implementing.
GC, they could always do what they did in Seattle: build a load of floating house boats/sheds. Then they could fly in Meg Ryan and make a rom-com movie "Sleepless in Tuvalu".
Must be a result of a catastrophic coral bleaching, google Roger Harrabin.
August 2007 Manifesto for a start up Pan European law practice:
http://www.clientearth.org/images/stories/CE_pdfs/clientearth_activist_lawyers_eu.pdf
When the much to be wished for People's Encyclopaedia of the Great CO2 Scare is eventually constructed by good folks around the world, the entries under Climate Clowns will surely have room for a footnote on Mr Thornton.
michael hart, the rich and needy of more money, are having sleepness nights worrying how they can get more money for nothing.
In the latest fraud and corruption news, FIFA 2 IPCC 1. Don't miss more breathtaking own goals, before the showstopping Paris finale.
GC, they'll be in Dire Straits in Paris, but working hard on getting their money for nothing and chicks for free.
The dangerous part of this is pretty clearly on the horizon: Insane judgments of incredible damage awards against productive innocent producers.
Guardian standards of journalism would sink beneath a falling sea level, to be gladly missed.
He seems like a liar through ignorance. I'm sure he means well ... not.
He seems like a liar through ignorance. I'm sure he means well ... not." --Billy Liar
It's hard to say. Warmists' ignorance and stupidity are exceeded only by their venality.
Climate hysterics seem to be morbidly attracted to glacier calving, a perfectly natural spectacle.
Could it be that they luxuriate in the catastrophes that the process supposedly portends?
Well it's lucky we have informed, impartial judges rather than senile old gits :)
Despite of, no, because of, rising seas,
Darwin says, the coral atoll grows.
http://pauillac.inria.fr/~clerger/Darwin.html
MH: in your mention of the Paris brothers in arms, surely your mis-spelt – they want to get their cheques for free.
When Tuvalu disappears with climate Change that's one less off shore Tax Haven and Money Laundering operation
But with the Pacific Tectonic plate being forced up by the Indian Ocean Tectonic plate causing the land level to rise out the sea that wont be happening anytime soon
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/do-you-account-plate-tectonics-global-mean-sea-level-trend
https://justicefortaxesnetwork.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/jtns-comprehensive-list-of-all-the-tax-havens-in-the-world/
RR, I had Mr Pachauri in mind when I wrote that.
senile old gits :)
Oct 9, 2015 at 8:30 AM | Unregistered CommenterJamesG
On my own behalf (I am 70) and all other potential "Senile Old Gits" I object to the use of this terminology. Peter Walsh, Dublin.
Tuvalu disappearing through climate change is a myth that was being actively promoted a few years ago.
Like the other scaremongering myths that were debunked, it held the spotlight for a few months and then dropped from view. Note that there's never any acceptance that the myths were baseless, they just aren't pushed so hard and live on as lesser myths, to be wheeled out as self-evident facts but not defended.
Thornton regurgitating it is something along the lines of propaganda; say something often enough, with confidence and it creates a background of assumption.
"Threatening action against polluters" sounds pretty good, but doesn't necessarily amount to anything of substance. Put in the context of a government which held a session underwater in SCUBA gear as a PR stunt, it's easily seen as more of the same; trying to con money from the gullible for their supposed plight.
Peter Walsh
Are you a judge? If not, then it was not directed at you. If so, then have a good look around you.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2011/01/the_oldest_bench_ever.html
http://traditionalbritain.org/blog/judges-against-british-people-david-hamilton/
James is not just an environmental lawyer
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v09n1/09143hri.html
He has been involved with the Heffter institute for psychedelic research as well as his books on transcendental meditations.
He is a nice guy, but like all lawyers, he fights his clients corner. He probably Believes in Climate Change.
I fear for people like him when environmentalism becomes as welcome as a wet fart.
They are endangered species.
It is sometime back, years perhaps, but I remember the title of Environmental Lawyer being described as an oxymoron.
Of course Tuvalu did discover there was money to made out of the .tv domain suffix. They went a bit quiet after that, if I recall.
Tuvalu, and other islands believe they have been promised money from jumping up and down about global warming. It will be like striking oil, which is probably what they would have preferred.
Peter Walsh 1.14pm
I thought the oxymoron was "Government Intelligence."
Peter Walsh & Messenger oxymorons
Climate Science Expert?
re
Peter Walsh 1.14pm
I thought the oxymoron was "Government Intelligence."
Oct 9, 2015 at 3:05 PM | Unregistered
Hi Messenger...agree but try googling Bishop Hill blog for all uses of oxymoron
@michael hart Oct 8, 2015 at 8:26 PM
Has Dominique Strauss-Kahn been invited? The free chicks and cheques should ensure his attendance. Representing who though: Russia, Serbia or South Sudan - three wonderul, democratic, peaceful countries well known for their acceptance and tolerance of Greenies and other weridos.
OT somehow the free chicks poisoned my mind and made it think of Russel Brand. Then, to escape from that horror I devised a new Big Brother show: Russel Brand, Jo Brand and Frankie Boyle in Lefty Commedian (alledgedly) Big Brother One Year living together. Every week there will be a vote for who else should join them. On the short-list are Sandy Toksvig, Stephen Fry, Hugh Grant and Camilla Batmansponger
Pcar, I think that cast list for Big Brother could end up with a public fight to keep them all in.
"threatened challenges against polluters
polluters?
They need to be sent mirrors. Therein they can see polluters.
Kivalina was discussed 2 years ago by Willis Eschenbach.
Nice graphics and 106 comments.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/09/breaking-news-seventh-first-climate-refugees-discovered/
So, Tuvalu is actually growing?!
I should have known. Standard for all eco-propanganda. It has to be not only bollocks, but super-bollocks.
Congratulations, cosmic.
I have never before heard such a cogent and accurate description of the workings of eco-PR.
"...they just aren't pushed so hard and live on as lesser myths, to be wheeled out as self-evident facts but not defended."
Exactly so.
Everyone in a position to influence anyone else is lying now-a-days. Mostly. On the right it has always been thus.
Cameron and his lies about Corbyn at the Tory conference and then repeatedly broadcast on state and independent media.
Cooks spew regurgitated by an American President.
Surely we are in the end times? The big lie oft repeated.
Some say this is only aimed at the dumb (floating) voter but if I were 17 right now I would look around me and see - teachers, doctors, policemen, lawyers, politicians ALL lying through their eye teeth about important subjects and think "What examples of modern morality. Why should I be any different?"
Sad, sad times.
Maybe the only way to fight this is to lie harder?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u5uWyHJ5A4