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Jan152015
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Bishop Hill
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Jan 15, 2015 Climate: Parliament Conservatives Energy: wind Labour Two related stories caught my eye over the last couple of days, which seem to put our choices at election time in a fairly stark light.
At Guido's we learn that David Cameron has received a donation from one of the partners in his father-in-law's windfarm venture.
Meanwhile, the Times (£) reports that Labour have secretly told windfarm businesses that subsidies will flow unabated should they win the election. Indeed there seems to be a suggestion that the flood of money will turn into a tsunami.
A vote for either seems to be a vote to have your wallet emptied.
Reader Comments (21)
This sort of thing needs to be mentioned every time climate change, or whatever it is called by May, is mentioned in election campaigning by the LibLabCon renewable energy shills.
We are screwed as Labour and the Conservatives (and their bastard evil child in the Lib Dems) are just carbon copies of each other.
UKIP is our only hope to ever breaking the Mann Made Global Warming (tm) gravy train!
Mailman
Vote Labour and get more onshore wind and higher prices.
Vote Conservative and get corrupt wind and higher prices.
Vote LibDEm and get Ed Davey and more wind and higher prices.
Vote Green and get more wind and no electricity.
And in Scotland, vote SNP and get more wind and higher prices and more blackouts
Of the two, the Labour increase in Wind Energy is the more terrifying. This would seriously destroy our economy. Let us hope Ed Miliband never becomes Prime Minister.
The Conservatives will always be constrained by their country constituencies who are already complaining about windfarms. Having said that, it is clear Liz Truss is completely clueless - frightening.
Or... don't vote, buy a generator.
Davey on TODAY this morning on his way to an Aberdeen meeting to discuss oil prices. He was asked about the huge amount of tax levied on oil companies - around 60% - and whether he would do something about that. Pity the questioner didn't compare that with the huge amounts of subsidy for wind. But Davey just said that with the advent of the electric car there would be less and less need for oil. Again, pity the interviewer didn't ask him where the power for these cars came from. The man is as dim as a Davey lamp!
I don't know whether you noticed this rather interesting development wrt Scottish off-shore windfarms:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-30785448
For once, the RSPB doing what it should be doing and looking to protect wildlife.
Using our subsidy costs to pay both parties.
While Ridgewind gave £5,000 to sCam-eron's election fund she was probably also giving £10,000 to Milliband
..the King Canute who promises to reduce electricity costs to the consumer
..What by reducing subsidies to the GreenMafia who fund him ?
- Tip : buy yourself some shares in a brown envelope manufacturer.
While money doesn’t talk, it swears
Obscenity, who really cares
Propaganda, all is phony
Britinmontreal: Bob Dylan - always works for me!
Of course, this and SamCam's membership of Greenpiss could NEVER have any influence on David Cameron's insistence that the Greens are included in any party leaders' debates, could it..?
Marginally off-topic, but I sense that the energy companies are praying for a Labour win in May, as Ed Miliband is going to freeze their prices. They should of course be reducing their prices now, and continually, in the light of the dramatic fall in the price of energy, but of course they will only do a 'token' reduction (e.g. E-ON's 3.5% on gas - wowee) because they know that, come the election, they will enjoy 20 months of huge profits while their costs continue to fall..
Like low-energy lightbulbs, another classic example of government interference when none was needed, and the outcome is worse than doing nothing...
Money talks.
Mine said goodbye.
Gone to support shonky energy schemes.
(Plagiarized from a better man)
When money talks, common sense walks.
.....maybe Im being slow & thats the joke the Bish meant anyway
After Dylan (Bob), my favourite quote is from Seasick Steve: "I started out with nothin' and I've still got a lot of it left!"
I see that Sturgeon and her SNP clowns are caving in to industry threats, and insisting that Westminster must cut taxes on the Scottish oil industry. So now they seem to want the rest of us in the UK to subsidise, not only their renewable energy sources, but also fossil fuel as well.
BBC News at 10 reveals that dropping oil price is partly due to growth of Ruinable Energy. (No mention of Shale Oil).
I hadn' t realised how far they had progressed with the wind powered cars and solar powered planes.
Did BBC News show a GRAPH of how oil/demand has decreased due to solar/wind gimmicks ?
..I'll get my coat.
Salopian
So cutting taxes is a subsidy? And a tax sent to the rest of the UK from Scotland somehow represents England subsidising Scotland? Someone's head is surely screwed on backwards! As it happens punitive taxes were placed on the industry by the current government and that is what started the rot in exploration well before this oil price cut that nobody predicted.
So...
Clegg's wife works for a wind energy company.
Milliband's wife is a lawyer representing the wind energy industry.
Cameron's wife's father coins in 3.5 million in wind farm subsidies.
Ain't it just so predictable..?
We've had a bit of wind lately - so out comes a report (on the BBC News website, nach) which states that 'Wind power adds resilience to UK energy market..'
Produced by one Sophie Billington at an outfit called Cambridge Econometrics for - wait for it - RenewableUK....
The implication (along with the statement that the UK has the best 'wind resource' in Europe) - is that having all these bird-manglers 'saved' the UK £579 million in fossil fuels in 2013'.
No mention of how much it cost to put the things up in the first place - mainly with our money...
No mention of how much fossil fuel was required when the wind didn't blow...
Resilience..? Yeah, right....
One piece of good news - a related story below this one, was that RSPB Scotland has (presumably reluctantly) grown a pair and is opposing four offshore wind farms in Scotland.
A spokesman for Scottish Renewables descibed this legal challenge as 'Really disappointing..'
I bet..! They obviously thought they had the RSPB in their pocket...
Further to my previous....
Wind today - 0.29GW - or 0.6% of demand...
Yep - we really have got the 'best wind resource' in Europe...