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Tuesday
Sep302014

Quote of the day, murderous edition

Via Warwick Hughes comes this award of money from the government of the Australian Capital Territory:

Aspen Island Theatre Company: $18,793 to assist with costs of the creative development of a new theatre work, ‘Kill Climate Deniers’.

Classy.

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Never mind, Bish. The ACT "Government" is an overblown local government council created by the Federal Government a few years ago to make their bureaucrats, who with their families probably still comprise about half the population of the ACT, pay their own bills instead of forcing the taxpayers in the rest of the country to pay for keeping them in the relatively luxurious style to which they had become accustomed. Like local councils everywhere, here as well as there, it is has been colonised by the radical left, some of whom are genuine nutcases. As obnoxious as it is, this latest effort probably ranks as one of their saner decisions in recent years.

Sep 30, 2014 at 3:54 PM | Registered CommenterMique

Well I never! Aussies are capable of satire after all.

Sep 30, 2014 at 3:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterSteve Y

There is also a web site with the same theme:
killclimatedeniers.tumblr.com

Sep 30, 2014 at 4:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterSara Chan

Sara Chan,
The sociopath twit behind that website needs to be jailed. He is calling for armed violence up to and including killing people.

Sep 30, 2014 at 4:25 PM | Unregistered Commenterhunter

The way I heard it 'denier' had murderous impulses built in from the get-go. As always we're just asking for its usage, not its users, to be killed. But, as Clive James once memorably put it, to resist is regarded as a provocation. (Said of the Jews in relation to the Nazis. Note both parallels and reversals.)

The recipients and givers of this grant are I'm sure fringe nutcases of the type that won power in Germany in 1933. We look forward to their not following in those ignominious footsteps. Warwick Hughes and our host are right to shed light on these poisonous weeds of English-speaking discourse.

Sep 30, 2014 at 4:30 PM | Registered CommenterRichard Drake

em are you jumping to conclusions ? it could be an ironic title
nothing on the Theatre Company's website of new FB page
You have a link to a blog, which links to a blog, which got a tip saying this is the title of a play
..everything else seems to be empty speculation .. ..am I wrong ? (it has been known)
When I check that tumblr site it does sound like a satire "So this show (tentatively called Kill Climate Deniers because why not) takes this form: a group of heavily armed eco-activists break into a major Australian institution and hold the occupants hostage. Their demands are: a complete sessation of all carbon emissions, immediately, and the immediate transformation of the Australian economy away from any and all reliance on fossil fuels. Immediately."

Sep 30, 2014 at 4:51 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

It appears to belong to a David Finnigan. I think.

From the About page:

In short, what would it take to actually stop climate change, dead in its tracks?

The answer is: guns. And lots of them.

Armed insurrection. Revolution. Or at the very least, a massive hostage scenario.

In 2002, about 50 armed Chechens broke into the Dubrovka Theatre in Russia and took the 850 occupants hostage, demanding an end to the Russian occupation of Chechnya. Their efforts were unsuccessful, ending when the Russian government gassed the building with a toxic substance, killing 200 of their own citizens as well as the terrorists. Nevertheless, their attempt provides a model for what a real challenge to the status quo might look like. They went in with no expectation that they themselves would survive, but they put their own lives (and the lives of nearly a thousand innocent bystanders) on the line to try and put a stop to a war that has been raging for decades.

So this show (tentatively called Kill Climate Deniers because why not) takes this form: a group of heavily armed eco-activists break into a major Australian institution and hold the occupants hostage. Their demands are: a complete sessation of all carbon emissions, immediately, and the immediate transformation of the Australian economy away from any and all reliance on fossil fuels. Immediately.

Sep 30, 2014 at 4:52 PM | Registered Commentershub

How would we feel, will we feel, in 25 years, if it turns out climate change is not real?

I would feel like a FOOL

I would say to the Deniers, who put their reputations on the line, who stood up to orthodoxy, who were willing to say what they felt no matter the cost, THANK YOU

Not that you saved anyone’s lives, but what you did do, you told the truth - what you believed to be true - and you said it against the thunder and the lightning and the rain of scientific certitude that blew against you.

I would say, thank you for standing up and blowing against the wind.

From the "Kill Climate Deniers" blog.

Sep 30, 2014 at 4:54 PM | Registered Commentersteve ta

My irony meter fails to register there, Shub, don't know about you. steveta: That's fair comment, on the other hand - though I still object to 'Deniers' even with positive things said about them. There are many alternatives, all much to be preferred. And as a title 'Kill Climate Deniers' is a terrible misjudgement at best. Bean's 'The Heretic' pushes the irony to exactly the right level. We should reject all such violent language, however 'postmodern' and 'ironic' it may claim to be in the small print.

Sep 30, 2014 at 4:57 PM | Registered CommenterRichard Drake

I'm proposing the follow-up Production; 'Watch warmist-pseuds freeze in the new LIA'. Free snowballs to pelt the cast......

Sep 30, 2014 at 5:02 PM | Unregistered Commenterturnedoutnice

I see they read the Guardian.

Sep 30, 2014 at 5:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterSchrodinger's Cat

and as you can notice, it is kill climate deniers not kill climate killers....death penalty for blasphemy...

first let s kill climate deniers then , because nothing has changed, kill everybody...

Sep 30, 2014 at 5:14 PM | Unregistered Commenterlemiere

He means it ironically, but in a wistful fantasizing and yet angry 'Hmmm if only we could', 'let the thought simmer in your head' sort of way. Because this lies in fantasy we are to take comfort that he does not mean it literally.

A Julian Hobba is the director.

Finnigan has a fellowship from a certain Churchill Trust:

http://www.churchilltrust.com.au/fellows/detail/3715/David+Finnigan

Death threats do not mix well with ... almost anything, even in art.

A 'good' play would be the Chechen hostage situation but with eco-terrorists. I can only imagine the genius it would take to pull it off.

Sep 30, 2014 at 5:20 PM | Registered Commentershub

This news reached the western shore this am:


Extremist preachers and far right groups will be banned from using television and social media to spread their ideology under a future Conservative government, according to plans announced by Theresa May on Tuesday.

Any chance she's speaking of us?

Sep 30, 2014 at 5:42 PM | Unregistered Commenterjferguson

Well. I suppose Michael Mann would fall under the heading of an extremist ideologue but then so might Richard Dawkins

Sep 30, 2014 at 6:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterArthur Dent

So will they make it a public transport only venue and halfway through, will they kill the power and tell the audience to push off because there's no real energy justification for pretentious idiots to moralise to a hypocritical public?

Sep 30, 2014 at 7:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

jferguson: In a word, no, no chance. The relevant person that's been barred entry from Britain by this home secretary, as a sop to Muslims, isn't Roy but Robert Spencer. Given the guy's witty and eminently reasonable critique of the Islam is Peace campaign in 2007 I think that decision was gravely out of order. But, as Teresa May is well aware, most of her fellow Tory MPs, whom she no doubt hopes will one day make her leader, are climate sceptics or at least policy sceptics of some sort. There's no way persecution is going to come from this direction therefore.

Sep 30, 2014 at 7:11 PM | Registered CommenterRichard Drake

I always wondered who denies climate. Bizarre.

Sep 30, 2014 at 7:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterDoubting Rich

"Floating queerly and musically at the heart of the national capital is Aspen Island. Bathing undisturbed in the water of Lake Burley Griffin, overshadowed by symbols of nationhood, mounted by an imperial organ and reachable only by a bridge crossing over a fluid threshold, Aspen is a constructed island in a constructed lake in a constructed capital for an ever-changing nation. Contingent, playful and epic, Aspen Island Theatre Company is its national theatre."

Well connected to reality...or at least the part that pumps money.

Sep 30, 2014 at 7:17 PM | Unregistered Commenterbetapug

Is April 1st late this year?

Sep 30, 2014 at 7:52 PM | Unregistered CommenterTC

The sociopath claims he would feel badly if, in 25 years, it turns out skeptics were correct.
But he wants to attack civilizaiotn with armed violent terrorism in the meantime.
That thinking would not be accepted in Texas.

Sep 30, 2014 at 8:15 PM | Unregistered Commenterhunter

worth reposting here, Hans Erren says

Would the media remain silent when subtituting “climate deniers” with “climate scientists”, or “women”, or “aboriginals.”?
Yes would the "joke" be tolerated if it was about killing "climate scientists" ?

Sep 30, 2014 at 8:49 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

quote
This news reached the western shore this am:

Extremist preachers and far right groups will be banned from using television and social media to spread their ideology under a future Conservative government, according to plans announced by Theresa May on Tuesday.
Any chance she's speaking of us?
unquote

There was a move a few weeks ago to stop UKIP having a stall at Bury St Edmunds and Haverhill. All we have done at both is stand and chat, hand out some leaflets and shiver -- it's always bloody cold. I don't know what happened to the idea, but if they do ban us then Bury, birthplace of Magna Carta, will be able to claim the title 'cradle and grave of democracy.'

quote
One chronicler, Roger of Wendover a monk from St. Albans, describes a meeting at Bury St. Edmunds in 1214. The most likely date for this meeting is November 20, 2014 because that was St Edmund’s day. A group of Barons met in St. Edmunds Abbey Church and swore an oath to compel King John to accept The Charter of Liberties, a proclamation of Henry I. It was the direct precursor to Magna Carta a year later. Some historians contest whether this account is reliable but the people of Bury St. Edmunds have always celebrated their role in the Magna Carta story.
unquote

JF

Sep 30, 2014 at 9:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterJulian Flood

Just spread the word and the world will come to its own conclusions about these climate nutcases.
Every scaremongering article, every table-thumping tirade, every 'protest' march, just further highlights the increasing desperation of their pant-wetting nonsense.
There's been no warming worth a fig for 2 decades. They're wrong. They know they're wrong but cannot, will not, admit it. This is their problem, not ours.

Sep 30, 2014 at 10:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterCheshirered

Some years ago (before I gave up on it) I vaguely remember hearing a Radio 4 play about some eco loons who – if I remember right – took over a theme park(??) on it's opening day and killed loads of children and themselves to create awareness about third world poverty or some such thing.

It was vile and scary, yet the protagonist was portrayed as a martyr.

It's clear from the lunatic drivel above that the insane person thinks the Chechen attack on the Russian theatre was a noble effort.

Words fail.

Sep 30, 2014 at 10:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterStuck-Record

They're idiots. Look at their website URL, which scans on first reading to as-penis-land.

Cocks, indeed.

Sep 30, 2014 at 11:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterMooloo

This is not parody or sarc. It is hate speech and ACT has laws against it. Someone should make a serious noise.
the tumblr site clearly shows the over the top portion of this "artist".

Sep 30, 2014 at 11:21 PM | Unregistered CommenterTimo Soren

I don't know whether this a tongue in cheek effort, however if it is a serious title, then lots of heads need banging together in some building doling out the taxpayer dollars up in the government of the Australian Capital Territory. I hope that, some of our fellow realists over at Jo's [Nova] place will see fit to vent their anger - at appropriate dirty dingoes.

Plus surely, inciting such - homicidal violence is an offence, a breach of law - down under?

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

Gandhi

The alarmists, first set and then sowed the wind but the realists await patiently for the alarmists of the global warming hysteria - to reap the whirlwind.

Oct 1, 2014 at 12:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterAthelstan.

So Australia wasn't washed away by the floods? If there were no floods, that means that global warming has indeed caused a perpetual drought. Depressing.

Oct 1, 2014 at 12:09 AM | Unregistered CommenterZT

These people are on the anti capitalist (eco fascist) extreme RIGHT, not left.


Keith Farnish of Dark Mountain.


Farnish writes


"The only way to prevent global ecological collapse and thus ensure the
survival of humanity is to rid the world of Industrial Civilization"


Unloading essentially means the removal of an existing burden: for
instance, removing grazing domesticated animals, razing cities to
the ground, blowing up dams and switching off the greenhouse gas
emissions machine. The process of ecological unloading is an
accumulation of many of the things I have already explained in
this chapter, along with an (almost certainly necessary) element
of sabotage.


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100023339/james-hansen-would-you-buy-a-used-temperature-data-set-from-this-man/


Keith Farnish has it right: Time has practically run out, and the 'system' is the
problem. Governments are under the thumb of fossil fuel special
interests - they will not look after our and the planet's
well-being until we force them to do so, and that is going to
require enormous effort. --

-Professor James Hansen, GISS, NASA

Oct 1, 2014 at 12:35 AM | Unregistered Commenteresmiff

"These people are on the anti capitalist (eco fascist) extreme RIGHT, not left."


"These people"

Left or, right whoTF cares - all alarmists who cry - catastrophic global warming is, will be caused by MMCO2: are nutters

Oct 1, 2014 at 12:44 AM | Unregistered CommenterAthelstan.

Mark Steyn has a few words to say about it, including the delightful phrase

"Mannatollah Mike"

Oct 1, 2014 at 1:43 AM | Unregistered Commentermichael hart

Reading those extracts from shub and steveta made me sick in the stomach. This isn't humour in bad taste; this is naked hatred on display.

Oct 1, 2014 at 1:52 AM | Unregistered CommenterGreg Cavanagh

George Monbiot endorsed the actions of protesters who sabotaged Scottish mine equipment and encouraged future similar action.

But while the government undermines its own targets, some people in Scotland are putting its climate change policy into effect. The Scottish camp for climate action has declared war on opencast coal mining. Yesterday people associated with it did what the government should have done years ago, and cut the conveyor belt used to carry coal from the Glentaggart pit in Lanarkshire to the local rail terminal.

Now they propose to take on other pits, as well as Scotland's biggest coal-burning power stations. They have chosen the right targets. Coal is the dirty word that threatens to destroy attempts at Copenhagen in December to prevent climate breakdown. If governments won't take it on, we must.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2009/aug/07/monbiot-scotland-climate-policy

Oct 1, 2014 at 2:20 AM | Unregistered CommenterE. Smiff

Let's not forget FOAI CG1682:

"What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multi-decadal natural fluctuation? They'll kill us probably..."

By Tommy Wils, giving some very sensible advice to his colleagues on how to respond to Steve McIntyre and ClimateAudit.

Oct 1, 2014 at 3:00 AM | Unregistered CommenterDaleC

Heh, Michael H., 'Le Climat, c'est moi' was pretty good, too.
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Oct 1, 2014 at 4:30 AM | Unregistered Commenterkim

That David Finnigan can express such an extremity of doubt while persisting with his murderous intent demonstrate exquisite parody, or gross psychosis. So, shall we laugh, or get him the help he needs?
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Oct 1, 2014 at 4:33 AM | Unregistered Commenterkim

The man is a loon who probably howls at the full moon. Best ignored - as this just strikes me as being attention seeking. Therapy is needed to help him, I feel sorry for him being that angry all the time.

Oct 1, 2014 at 8:22 AM | Unregistered CommenterJack Cowper

le-climat-c'est-moi. brilliant

stewgreen: Thanks for quoting Hans Erren. The closest parallel would be "Killing niggers". Anyone want to give odds of that piece of postmodern irony getting funding?

Oct 1, 2014 at 8:38 AM | Registered CommenterRichard Drake

"…mounted by an imperial organ" (betapug 7:17AM)

Don't worry. The whole program is stuffed on a grand scale already.

Oct 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM | Unregistered CommenterAllan M

I think this clarifies the story.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/act_government_donates_to_kill_climate_deniers_project/

Oct 1, 2014 at 10:30 AM | Unregistered CommenterMagnum

Almost beyond belief: hence very, very disturbing.

Oct 1, 2014 at 11:32 AM | Unregistered CommenterPeter Stroud

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