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UKIP target Climate Change Act

UKIP seem to be perservering in their opposition to the UK's insane climate and energy policies, according to an article in Prospect magazine.

The party is also committed to the abolition of the Climate Change Act, which he estimates costs Britain £18bn a year. “We are looking to shrink the Department for Energy & Climate Change,” he says, adding that, “there are elements of BIS [Business, Innovation and Skills] that we are looking into.” The plans to shrink these departments will be independently reviewed, though “not by the OBR [Office for Budget Responsibility], even though they are likely to tear it to pieces anyway.”

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So when do we get to vote?

Aug 21, 2014 at 4:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterColin Porter

Now that makes sense! In the country of Climategate it is not bad to be second, after Australia. Let,s see how this will resonate in potential voters minds.

Aug 21, 2014 at 4:53 PM | Unregistered Commenteroebele bruinsma

oebele: Voters won't get to hear about this. The BBC will make sure of that. It's not mentioned here.

I thought Canada was in the top two.

Aug 21, 2014 at 4:59 PM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

Time for another complaint to the BBC if they don't give it coverage.

Aug 21, 2014 at 5:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterSchrodinger's Cat

Phillip, I agree it will be an uphill battle as far as the mainstream media are concerned. However when one wants to learn from history than the fading away of the " Acid Rain" hoax may offer hope.

Aug 21, 2014 at 5:13 PM | Unregistered Commenteroebele bruinsma

Schrodinger's Cat

The BBC DID cover this in their UKIP article this morning at 7.30 when I read it.
I see now that in the 13:24 edit the Climate Act statement has been 'disappeared'.

Questions as to where UKIP would get money for tax cuts would have had an answer
had they left the article as originally written.

Aug 21, 2014 at 5:17 PM | Unregistered Commenterjazznick

@ S's Pussy

The procedure is:

Complaint >> AutoRebuttal >> rebut the rebuttal >> "You're Wrong" >> escalate to Editorial Complains Unit >> ""You're mistaken" >> 'No I'm not" >> "Yes you are" >> escalate to Editorial Standards Committee of the BBC >> "We were right".

Aug 21, 2014 at 5:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe Public

UKIP do not make enough of their position on energy/climate change. They could trump Millibad's (sic) price freeze by promising to cut energy costs 'at a stroke'. Let's hope they get to it.

Aug 21, 2014 at 6:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterH2O: the miracle molecule

I listen to R4 "news" at 7am every morning, on which the BBC's tacit mission to protect public sector sinecures tends to come across particularly clearly.

The only UKIP policies mentioned this morning were tax cuts and reversing the 'bedroom tax'.

A policy of scrapping the CCA is obviously a matter of public interest, but the BBC somehow omitted to mention it.

Aug 21, 2014 at 6:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterJake Haye

Yeah but with a rather depressingly inevitability its what UKIP says about Immigration that gets the headlines and the votes.

Aug 21, 2014 at 7:01 PM | Unregistered Commenterjamspid

This latest idiocy seems relevant: link

In 10 days' time an EU ban on vacuum cleaners over 1600W comes into force, and from 2017 cleaners over 900W will be banned, supposedly to "tackle climate change". Exactly to what extent this policy is expected to affect the global climate is not stated.

Could it be a facile attempt to postpone the rolling blackouts expected as a result of other idiotic policies?

Aug 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterJake Haye

The topic of energy costs, renewables, and DECC's policies comes up regularly for South Suffolk UKIP, and indeed to many others in the constituency.

Tim Yeo the commons committtee chairman on climate change, now deselected, has been our MP for the past thirty years. Which has had a lot to do with local interest in such matters. We welcome the move to get rid of the CC Act.

Aug 21, 2014 at 7:10 PM | Unregistered CommenterSteven Whalley

UKIP are on the right lines but they need to shout their energy policy from the roof tops.

Aug 21, 2014 at 7:43 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoy

All sounds very sensible to me. Except the "shrinking of DEC".
Abolition of this corrupt and inept organanisation is the only way forward.

Aug 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM | Unregistered CommenterDon Keiller

Jake Haye

Don't worry about that, apparently, we are are not legal members of the EU.

Aug 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM | Unregistered Commenterpesadia

Rescinding the CCA 2008!

If were done last Tuesday it could not be too soon, time waits for no man and this dreadful act of economic destruction - in part written by a Engl' grad student and greenpi** activist along with other sundry eco loons - needs to find itself kicked off the statute books forthwith.............and is it not, another excellent reason to vote UKIP?

If you vote for any of LiblavCON, you vote for more green misery, higher taxes and financial evisceration via de-industrialization of the nation.

In the end, one has to seriously ask - the eco warriors and their corporate and political blob are, will facilitate an economic catastrophe - then, who are the real loonies and deniers in Britain today?

Aug 21, 2014 at 11:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterAthelstan.

Aug 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM | Jake Haye

In 10 days' time an EU ban on vacuum cleaners over 1600W comes into force, and from 2017 cleaners over 900W will be banned, supposedly to "tackle climate change". Exactly to what extent this policy is expected to affect the global climate is not stated.

Could it be a facile attempt to postpone the rolling blackouts expected as a result of other idiotic policies?


Next will come all the other household and trade tools ... will they limit the power output electric cars as that is just a waste of electricity?

Aug 21, 2014 at 11:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterStreetcred

UKIP's energy policy (the only energy policy worth the name, by any UK political party) is largely thanks to their Energy Spokesman, Roger Helmer MEP.
Roger is one of the vanishingly small number of UK politicians who have consistently and intelligently opposed both the Climate Change Act 2008 and all the rest of the Thermogeddonist nonsense. I think this played a part in his move to UKIP from the Tories. His blog is always worth a read.
Don't assume that the Beeb will just use their customary censorship mode and ignore UKIP' s policy.
I think you will find that, if it looks as if UKIP may win some seats in the 2015 election, the Beeb will amazingly resurrect this, in the context that 97% of all scientists, politicians, dress designers, hedge fund operators, cats, Strictly Come X-Factor contestants, archbishops and grannies are as one in agreeing that UKIP's policy is rubbish and ought not to be allowed.

Aug 22, 2014 at 12:40 AM | Unregistered Commentermartin brumby

UKIP has consistently appealed for reason against the madness of the climate change agenda, and Youtube is littered with UKIP speeches referring to it.

I find it tragic that UKIP routinely faces so much media hostility and abuse in the UK, and faces such a huge electoral hurdle to achieve due representation in Westminster under the FPTP electoral system.

The central planks of UKIP's raison d'etre are obvious from one of the best speeches I have yet heard from Nigel Farage. It was given last year to a highly receptive Canadian audience, and his views on global warming can be heard at around 17 minutes in this impressive 21 minute address.

Aug 22, 2014 at 12:54 AM | Registered CommenterPharos

Maybe its not so bad that the BBC ignores the UKIP climate change act policy, just imagine who they would get on to comment on that policy, providing more opportunities for preaching the message.

Aug 22, 2014 at 8:15 AM | Unregistered CommenterMikky

The media anti-UKIP stance will eventually become watered down, ever so slightly change in tenor, then suddenly they'll all be saying "we all really supported UKIIP all along" as LibLabCon seats fall. The MSM would swap sides, just as soon as they'd sell their Grandmothers for tuppence. Fickle, all of 'em (except, of course, the Guardian, which is irretrievably bonkers).

Aug 22, 2014 at 8:18 AM | Unregistered CommenterOld Goat

The pause is causing them a big problem, here the BBC try to spin it at least they've acknowledged there is one.
Problem is the tack the charlatans are taking is we want another ten years of madness, then another, then another.
Another ten years of funding more like, another ten years of needlessly expensive energy, another ten years of utter stupidity.
The only thing that will bring this issue to the fore is a damn cold winter, the self inflicted shoddy state of our energy generating capacity should do the rest.

Aug 22, 2014 at 9:13 AM | Unregistered Commenterc777

I think BH should amalgamate with UKIP...only a matter of time. It part funds it anyway, so lets join up. Stronger in numbers.

Aug 22, 2014 at 9:34 AM | Unregistered CommenterRichard

What a pity UKIP will be in no position to implement this sane policy. At least not in 2015.

Aug 22, 2014 at 10:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterPeter Stroud

This is the reason (and the only reason) I started voting UKIP.
They are the only party who put keeping us warm, lit and thus the economy afloat above an unproven, over-hyped and society destroying conjecture.
I'm looking at you CAGW!

Aug 22, 2014 at 10:42 AM | Unregistered Commenterjet_noise

Good UKIP for pointing out the obvious. And is anyone surprised that state controlled media would decline to cover a direct challenge to the state's favorite obsession?
Despite BBC's attempts to suppress this from the public square, they will fail. Look at Australia: their state media refuses still to honestly report on cliamte, environment and energy and they still lost.

Aug 22, 2014 at 11:23 AM | Unregistered Commenterhunter

Thanks for the link to the Prospect article and to Pharos for the link to the Farage speech in Canada.

I think that UKIP will have a significant impact on the next GE. They may even pick up one or two seats. Even more significantly, they will make a big dent in the Conservative vote. They will also dent the Labour vote. What is entirely unpredictable is what the net effect on seats and majorities this will have in FPTP voting in the next GE. It seems to me that UKIP will produce a manifesto that will appeal to the significant minority who look beyond the continuous propaganda stream that comes from the three established parties and the BBC. Exiting the EU, control of immigration, repeal of the Climate Change Act and income tax changes would appear to be at its core. UKIP should be entirely capable of achieving a vote share at least as high as the 15-17% range it currently polls, and probably more once the campaign starts in earnest.

The size of that vote, as well as success in electing an MP, will impact the policies of whichever party wins or leads another Coalition. Whether that will be enough to achieve repeal of the Act is another matter. Probably the best that could be hoped for is mitigation of its worst effects or the suspension of some provisions. But no one should under estimate how deeply embedded its provisions are in quangos, follow on legislation, regulations and people committed to the CAGW cause in positions of authority.

Aug 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM | Unregistered Commenteroldtimer

Why has there been so little comment on the conclusions of the DECC report two weeks that burning wood has a higher carbon footprint than burning coal. Drax ,the largest coal fired plant in the UK and others are receiving multi millions of pounds from the EU and the DECC to convert units to burning wood mainly imported from the USA. This is the ultimate lunacy. The taxpayer is now supporting subsidies to INCREASE our carbon emissions.

Aug 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterSpen

"In 10 days' time an EU ban on vacuum cleaners over 1600W comes into force"

When was this decided? I read nothing about this before it popped up in 'unthreaded' a couple of days ago! I wonder how the vacuum cleaner makers & sellers have had to prepare?

Aug 22, 2014 at 3:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames P

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