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Jul052014

BBC range free - Josh 282

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Ahh....I see that Hulme had a little "pause" there. Perhaps they should discuss it.

Jul 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterHarry Passfield

Many a true word, cartooned in jest.

Jul 5, 2014 at 7:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe Public

"I brought my own coal" ROTFLMAO and I don't even know why.

Mike Hulme has a new paper where he ventures the idea that cutting CO2 could be sold to the wider public and business world as a virtue. Hmm ideed!

http://www.mdpi.com/2076-0787/3/3/299

Jul 5, 2014 at 7:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

As the BBC and its scientivists continue to push the pseudo-science, many countries around the world will continue to emit CO2 in ever greater amounts.

As the Borg say - "Resistance is Futile"

Jul 5, 2014 at 7:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharmingQuark

Mike Hulme's paper makes the extraordinary claim about a species of social primates that evolved during an Ice Age and then suffered a more recent Little Ice Age: "A changing climate is a condition of modernity, but a condition which modernity seems uncomfortable with." Then he suggests promoting a fraud he is among the most qualified men to fully comprehend as a fraud, using the religious concept of virtue as propaganda. There's no blade in the input data of the latest hockey stick, Dr. Hulme, the plot that is used to support your claim that climate change is novel.

Jul 5, 2014 at 8:21 PM | Unregistered CommenterNikFromNYC

When the People's Encyclopaedia of Climate Scares is eventually compiled, surely Josh's artwork will illuminate the biggest section - the one covering the past few decades, the most disgraceful Scare of them all.

Jul 5, 2014 at 9:54 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

Bit off topic

Reading Dellingpole latest on Briebart can't get onto Discus to reply.
The Recycling Taliban.Perhaps they want to make Britain part of a new Eco Totalitarian Caliphate.Current Bussword
When all growth is stopped and the planet saved and we re a 3rd world country there will be plenty of rubbish tips left over for our children to scavenge sorry recycle.

Jul 5, 2014 at 10:02 PM | Unregistered CommenterJamspid

Lovely cartoon.

I doubt anybody at the BBC will see it though.

There is no point complaining about "BBC bias". These are people who know little to nothing about the issues and - like many such people- assume there is little or nothing to know.

Why don't you (Bish) suggest that a briefing paper should be prepared - in Janet & John language - by people with sufficient qualifications to impress even the BAs at the Beeb setting out:

(1) what is "settled" and why;
(2) what is disputed and why, and what the respective arguments are;
(3) what is largely agreed up to, but not beyond, a point: what that point is, and why.

I would suggest large fonts and lots of pretty pictures, and that it be written in a manner which a 12 year old could understand. And if the authors could include some of the more liberal warm it's, then so much the better.

And it should be presented as publicly as possible - ideally by a friendly MP - so that they will actually have to read it and respond to it.

Any takers?

Jul 5, 2014 at 11:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterWFC

Just spotted the BBC BUNK...R. Nice one. Josh's cartoons are getting to be like Wallace and Gromit, where you have to look at them several times to get all the jokes.

Jul 5, 2014 at 11:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

I should add that any such submission should not hector, should not "told you so", should not "how dare you". The tone should be helpful - clarifying information on the assumption that much of it will be new to whoever reads it.

(You do not persuade people by insulting them. You do not persuade people by threatening them (abolish the BBC etc). Zealot threats to imprison "deniers" have persuaded 0% of people to subscribe to AGW (according to my very sophisticated survey the details of which are, unfortunately, confidential) - the same goes for sceptic threats.)

Jul 5, 2014 at 11:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterWFC

If you don't like BBC bias don't pay the licence fee.

Jul 5, 2014 at 11:33 PM | Registered CommenterMikeHaseler

Ultrafidian adj. Blindly credulous

Voulu adj. contrived, deliberate

Vaticinate v. to speak as a prophet.

Jul 6, 2014 at 12:38 AM | Unregistered CommenterGraeme No.3

bit off topic but 'Pat' on JoanneNova site brought this to my attention and I like the BBC it shows how taxpayer money is and will be spent.
"(100 pages PDF document) UK Govt: Ministry of Defense: Strategic Trends Programme – Global Strategic Trends – Out to 2045.
...Climate change is the principal driver of change in the Arctic and Antarctic, with increasing temperatures and precipitation... As Arctic and Antarctic sea ice retreats, many areas that are currently inaccessible could become open to commercial exploitation, particularly of oil and gas… In the 2045 timeframe, coal and hydrocarbons are likely to remain the most important sources of energy, with renewable and nuclear energy likely to make an increasing contribution…

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/324188/8667_GST_textpages_v1_2w.pdf
......."

Jul 6, 2014 at 1:23 AM | Unregistered Commentertom0mason

“Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.” - Theodore Dalrymple, 2005

Jul 6, 2014 at 2:33 AM | Unregistered CommenterNikFromNYC

I remember the "Adventure" game.


.....
Feed troll.

Trolls eat only coal. Now you have made him *really* angry.

Jul 6, 2014 at 6:55 AM | Registered CommenterMartin A

Channel 4 News - Jon Snow:

http://www.unicef.org.uk/Latest/Publications/climate-change-report-jon-snow-2013/

It shows that three-quarters of 11-16 year-olds in the UK are worried about how climate change will affect their future and wish the government would do more to tackle it.

Google - jon snow climate change......whole loads of it.

And we know exactly what government(s) do about it.......all the wrong things at enormous cost to those kids in the future.!

Jul 6, 2014 at 8:42 AM | Unregistered CommenterEx-expat Colin

[snip]

Jul 6, 2014 at 10:46 AM | Unregistered CommenterJBBS

George Orwell worked at the BBC before he described the Ministry of Truth. Or did he invent it?

The BBC is the propaganda arm of the British establishment. Not the government, but those people who do not change when governments change. There is no happenstance in their position on anything. It is useless to complain, they have control of the procedure and of the body which is tasked with ensuring they stick to the charter. You can't do anything but realise what's going on and switch them off.

Jul 6, 2014 at 2:00 PM | Unregistered Commenterrhoda

@Ex-expat Colin

Damn! I was hoping for some sort of GOT parodies along the lines of "You know nothing..."

Jul 6, 2014 at 2:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterLevelGaze

"If you don't like BBC bias don't pay the licence fee."

Yep, complained directly to them was effectively told 'sod off sonny'.
Told 'em don't need to pay their wages anymore - never looked back!

Jul 6, 2014 at 4:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe Writer

Just caught the back end of radio 4's 'points of view' which was a carefully orchestrated objection to anyone with a sceptical bias being allowed any airtime.

Jul 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM | Unregistered Commenterphilip foster

Exactly what rhoda said plus this reason


Carbon trading could be worth twice that of oil in next decade

The carbon market could become double the size of the vast oil market, according to the new breed of City players who trade greenhouse gas emissions through the EU's emissions trading scheme.

The ETS market may see $3tn (£1.8tn) worth of transactions a year in the next decade or two, according to Andrew Ager, head of emissions trading at Bache Commodities in London, with it even being used as a hedge against falling equities or rising inflation. "It is still a relatively new industry with annual trades of around €300bn every year. But this could grow to around $3tn compared to the $1.5tn market there is for oil," says Ager, who used to be a foreign currencies trader.

The speed of that growth will depend on whether the Copenhagen summit gives a go-ahead for a low-carbon economy, but Ager says whatever happens schemes such as the ETS will expand around the globe.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/29/carbon-trading-market-copenhagen-summit

Jul 6, 2014 at 10:38 PM | Unregistered Commenteresmiff

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