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Thursday
Nov202014

Roger throws down the gauntlet

This morning Roger Harrabin has written something about the Green Climate Fund, the latest wheeze for moving money from the pockets of poor people in rich countries to those of rich people in poor countries, while allowing environmentalists to take their cut. No surprise there.

What was interesting was the way he describes the GWPF:

Benny Peiser from the fossil fuel lobby group GWPF said international climate finance for low carbon development was "a detrimental use of aid money".

A couple of days ago I wrote to Roger about his coverage of the ODI report into fossil fuel subsidies, pointing out that it was essentially a work of fiction. He was apparently too busy to look into the problems with it.

Go figure.

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Reader Comments (114)

'Stealth edit' makes it seem a wee bit too evolutionary and acceptable in professional news terms.

It's really not.

The BBC trumpets trust and transparency at the drop of a senior executive's spokesperson's hat, yet they keep running propaganda and only change it when totally held to account and forced to.

And then in the most weaselly, 'hope no one will notice' manner possible. And in the age of the internet, archive caches, page grabs, etc, thereby making things worse.


JunkkMale,

Vanishing, trickery and discombobulation............. of, you saw it and read it, but now it's gone! They'll be rewriting history next............oh WAIT!

Puts me in mind of the Environment Advocacy and the MO, the ministers of Meteorological Obfuscation.

Nov 21, 2014 at 1:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterAthelstan.

Whack a Mole / ET

keep going boys ... I'm really looking forward to your explanations of green funding.

...... does tumbleweed make any noise?

Nov 21, 2014 at 1:36 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Here it is tomo. Not sure why you think we were looking into green funding. GWPF is the subject matter here.

From the link it appears that Mr Hintze runs the CQS hedge fund. One of its strategies did fund oil rig financing.

“CQS RIG Finance Fund LTD is a closed-ended investment company incorporated in Guernsey. The Company invests in a portfolio of secured debt instruments issued to finance the construction, modification and/or refurbishment of rigs and other infrastructure and/or equipment used for the offshore exploration and production of oil and natural gas.”

This fund faced liquidation half way through this year.

I've yet to find how much he donated to GWPF. His admission only seemed to come out when he admitted a relation with GWPF. He is certainly generous with his monies though - the Tory party received about 100k.

Bit close to the bone methinks - not very convenient is it. Maybe best to keep quiet about this.

tomo - you think Roger H knows any of this? It was in the Guardian so not exactly obscure. He is a journo after all might be more strident if he did.

Nov 21, 2014 at 2:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterWhack a Mole

Hell - has anyone seen this?

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/10

2014 heading for temp record....

Interesting as it may be I can't believe we're wasting our time here with some minor journo...

Nov 21, 2014 at 3:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterWhack a Mole

Tomo

I am not a green so I have no insight into their funding.

As a games theory strategy. it does make a certain sense for the fossil fuel lobby to finance Greenpeace and the GWPF. They can therefore control both sides of the debate.

While this artificial debate continues they can keep pumping oil, digging coal and dodging awkward questions about the value of their reserves.

Nov 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterEntropic man

noisy tumbleweed.....

The Harridan well knows which side his bread is (liberally) buttered - he does not do strident (usually) as his MO is sly dishonest stuff - in fact so oleaginous that it's positively creepy. There is an element of disdainful haughtiness to his mic delivery that only adds to my irritation at his antics.

The amounts received by GWPF are so positively piffling compared to the taxpayer funding alone of the assorted green alarmist advocacy goons that braying about it is exactly the sort of distraction antic that is expected from the blobbies.

Let's try The Pew (and other) Trusts, Rockerfellers , Grantham and so on eh? The diverse ecosystem of eco-groups and their funding especially in North America is a toxic sump of patronage and mendacious obfuscation that's actually an iceberg when you look closer and deeper.

Are you sure you want to play this game?

As to the oil majors - they have more in common with banks than anything else.

ENRON.......
terrible weather

Nov 21, 2014 at 5:12 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Entropic Man

I think you are close to the truth. I have always wondered about Shell.What I have wondered is that the oil reserves which are easy to obtain in politically stable countries are running low. New oil reserves are offshore or in unstable countries. Gas and oil from shale, methane hydrates and coal bed methane are all likely to compete with oil reserves in stable countries.
Coal has massive potential to generate electricity of new efficient high temperature and pressure fluid reactors become common. If the Western World becomes dependent on wind and solar and blackouts occur, then the oil companies reserves will increase in value. To a large degree, green groups destroying coal and shalegas/oil companies are removing competition to the oil companies.

In the large oil companies how many directors are engineers? If directors come from an arts background and moved into business , then they may actually believe in the green propaganda. The green agenda is largely supported by middle and upper middle class people from a non engineering background. It may be that guilt about their comfort makes then susceptible to green propaganda.

Nov 21, 2014 at 5:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharlie

EM agreed

Climategate: George Monbiot, the Guardian and Big Oil

But who is it that sponsors the Guardian?s Environment pages and eco conferences? Why, only that famous non-fossil-fuel company Shell. (Though I notice their logo no longer appears on top of the Guardian?s eco pages: has the Guardian decided the relationship was just too embarrassing to be, er, sustainable?)

And which company has one of the largest carbon trading desks in London, cashing in on industry currently worth around $120 billion ? an industry which could not possibly exist without pan-global governmental CO2 emissions laws ? BP (which stands for British Petroleum)

And how much has Indian steel king Lakshmi Mittal made from carbon credits thanks to Europe?s Emissions Trading Scheme? £1 billion.

And which companies were the CRU scientists revealed cosying up to as early as 2000 in the Climategate emails? There?s a clue in this line here: ?Had a very good meeting with Shell yesterday.?

And how much was Phil Jones, director of the discredited CRU, found to have collected in grants since 1990? £13.7 million ($22.7 million)

And why does this Executive Vice-Chairman of Rothschild?s bank sound so enthusiastic in this (frankly terrifying) letter about the prospects of the ?new world order? (his phrase not mine) which result from globally regulated carbon trading?

Or why not try this blog, in which a German Green party MP is revealed being given hefty donations by a solar power company?

Or how about this tiny $7o million donation to the climate change industry from the Rockefeller Foundation?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100019523/climategate-george-monbiot-is-in-the-pay-of-big-oil/

Nov 21, 2014 at 5:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterE. Smiff

International Emissions Trading Association (IETA)

The biggest lobbying group (486) at the Copenhagen global climate conference was the International Emissions Trading Association created to promote cap and trade in 1999.

Its members include :-

BP, Conoco Philips, Shell, E.ON , EDF, Gazprom , Goldman Sachs, Barclays, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley..

http://www.ieta.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=19%3Adefault&id=168%3Aour-members&Itemid=82

Nov 21, 2014 at 5:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterE. Smiff

Whackamole,
Your gullibility and near perfect echo effect is greatly appreciated by Gruber's pals pushing the climate crisis. Please keep demosntrating that the loss of critical thinking really does impact one's intelligence.
Thanks in advance,

Nov 21, 2014 at 6:36 PM | Unregistered Commenterhunter

A while back, after persuading David Shukman - BBC that an article he had written needed corrections. Which he did(Richard Betts and Paul Hudson had also raised concerns)
David told me that he had corrected it

I then had to remind him about BCC policy that corrections should be noted on the article, and he had failed to do so..

Perhaps Roger needs to do not the same... I may remind him later

Nov 21, 2014 at 6:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterBarry Woods

The ABC does this too. It "corrects" articles often weeks later, after complaints have been received, without showing the changes. Then it says that this demonstrates its commitment to truth in reporting.

Nov 21, 2014 at 7:16 PM | Registered Commenterjohanna

Next week is "Whack a Mole No Recycling Week" for me, as I need to get back some of the time I wasted reading his/her intentionally malicious posts.
- I will though make a special effort to tell 1 or 2 more people that accepting wind/solar subsidies is basically stealing from the pockets of the average poor consumer.

Nov 21, 2014 at 9:50 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Catastrophilia gets tens, if not HUNDREDS of billions of dollars in funding yet people like whack a mole wants us to bebelieve that the reason their religion is one the rack is because of groups like GPWF get mysterious levels of funding from oil 😂

Mailman

Nov 22, 2014 at 9:37 PM | Unregistered Commentermailman

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