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Bishop Hill
Bishop Hill Diggin' in the dirt
Jan 11, 2014 Greens On the website of somthing called "Project Dirt" I find this job advertisement offered by our old friend Brendan Montague who, readers will recall, has been conning his way into the homes of more or less prominent sceptics and raking through their bins looking for who knows what:
We've been running a two year investigation into climate change and how policy is formulated and influenced by special interest groups. We've collated a comprehensive database of facts, figures and key quotes and now we are trying to open up the results of our investigation in a searchable online database. In order to make the database searchable, we'll need your help to tag and categorise each of the records we've collected.
Reader Comments (22)
I'd apply, but I don't think I'd come up with the 'right' answers....
I notice that the web site has a forum attached. As yet with no contributions.
Perhaps some of us ought to sign up and start a discussion on whether they will be even-handed as between the "special interest groups" that are pushing the global warming myth and the unpaid volunteers in the real world that are trying to inject a note of sanity into the proceedings.
Publishing a few facts about where some of the NGOs get the money from that they use to lobby for the cause instead of helping the poor and starving in Africa and elsewhere (which is allegedly their remit) might keep them busy and hence out of mischief for a bit.
I'm game if anyone else is.
Yeah - go for it, Mike..!
Hmmm, Project Dirt, "Proudly working with..." or is it paid for by,
Deloitte's
Timberland
The RSA
Mayor of London
etc
That's us isn't it?
The site was set up 28 hours ago by one Sid Ryan (members, Sid Ryan; followers, Sid Ryan). It calls itself “the Green Social Network”.
I hope someone here will be volunteering. (Just don’t say “Andrew sent me”).
Chaveratti:
..and NESTA, which is a government funded scientific thinktank with world famous thespian and thinker Stephen Emmott on the board.
I recommend a couple of those kids from John Cook's Skeptical Treehut Science network. They are always fun to work with and they deliver at 97% efficiency. If you are lucky you may get a veteran of Climate Wars during which 300 STS Spartans defeated the hordes of WUWT-ians and other Persians. That feat is particularly memorable because they won the battle, lived to tell the tale, and did it without rippling abdominal muscles. They are also fully referenced by a psychologist who is an expert in this kind of stuff. His name is Lewandowsky and he can smell a denier from a hundred meters away. He is fully legit ... professor and all that. I can go check the Treehut files for a suitable candidate if Brendan agrees to owe me a favour.
Harry?!
I'm retired, living in France these days, in my time I've worked on SQLServer, Oracle, MS Access {still suffer from a nervous twitch after that ;-)}, and various other stuff probably relevant. If the money is good I'd be interested as Big Oil doesn't fund my retirement! I can torture data with the best of them.
Turney lied about Clitanic sponsors ? Says report NZDoC was proudly listed, but after FOIA request they "no, we didn't support it"
... So do you believe this list of supporters.
Can you TRUST a Green activist ?
So they want unpaid interns to do some work.
I always get a hoot when astro turf groups like "project dirt" start droaning on about 'special interest groups'. It is the parasites like 'project dirt' that are seeking policy influence vastly larger than their numbers or economic impacts.
Their request seems like a cyberspace version of Turney's quest for the holy warming grail: a badly planned waste of AGW believer money. Not that AGW believers wasting their time and money on idiots like Turney or Lewandowsky or Gore or some movie no one is going to watch is a bad thing. It is actually rather entertaining to watch the climate obsessed fund pre-determined studies. We get to see magical conspiracy thinking, hiding heat, contrived trend lines of storms, slr, oa, floods, etc. on full display. Sadly, however, a lot of this money come s from government sources, which means tax payers are footing the bill for the life styles of a bunch of useless parasites to promote more of their climate crisis crap..
So, he's been working on this project for two years. I wonder who's paying for it? Perhaps we should put in a FOIA request to find out?
I assume it's paid for by green 'charities'.
An early CV of a certain Brendan Montague:
http://web.archive.org/web/20041120094208/http://www.brendanmontague.com/
I didn't think dissenting special interest groups had any influence on policy, but I know there is a lot of interest in where they get their money. So the "figures" after two years of bin raking might be of interest to some.
I spy another Genesis-related headline. :-)
Climate change is a reality but many still don't believe it .
They only have to look at this forum to see how Donna LaFramboise is being funded by a shadowy group of climate deniers.
Right. That's my Green Turn fine for the day, now it's off to the Cittie of Yorke for Green Drinks next Tuesday. Creme de Menthes all round!
Venue info here: http://www.projectdirt.com/apps/event/20912/
Owned by Samuel Smith's unfortunately, not Greene King.
This FOIA organization is a common feature of environmentalist activism. They have a similar one focused on nuclear issues (NIRS - Nuclear Information and Research Service), and I bet they have similar "service organizations" for evil chemicals, for GMO, etc. They do the FOIA and "research" work for a fee, and share the results around the tribe, as well as feeding the PR beasts. I had an interaction with NIRS in the 80s, and I can say unequivocally that they must be treated with more care than a journalist or a poison viper. They can be charming and pleasant, but they will eventually take your words out of context and try to twist them into a rope to hang you.
It is ironic that the progressives mock their enemies when examples like this are pointed out - "ooooo, a conspiracy theorist!". But when you look at how much of their program is well organized, the only conclusion you can come to is that it really IS a conspiracy, in the sense that it is organized and coordinated and well-funded, just like a mondern industrial conglomerate. They have an ultimate goal in mind - i.e., the destruction of western industrialized civilization and its replacement with a society where everyone walks and nothing is so complicated that that it cannot be resolved in a small village. The progressives, of course, will be the village elders, telling everyone else what to do.
stewgreen says:
"Turney lied about Clitanic sponsors ? Says report NZDoC was proudly listed, but after FOIA request they "no, we didn't support it""
It all depends on how you define "support". Turney apparently had permission to land on the Snares Islands, something NZDoC most definitely does not give to ordinary mortals. Unless he was lying about that, too, in which case he has commited a criminal offence.