Bishop Hill Diary date: Meeting the climate change
Aug 24, 2013 Diary dates Here's a diary date for readers in Manchester:
Title: Meeting the climate change: Is a low carbon energy future possible?
Date: 5 September 2012 2013Time: 6-8pm
Venue: Renold building, University of ManchesterTake part in a free public debate on the most challenging issue of the 21st Century.
Have you got questions about fracking, nuclear energy, carbon capture? Do you want get an insight into Government policy and the views of leading scientists in climate change? If so, put it to our panel.
Join this public debate on how we can meet the challenge of climate change - one of the major problems faced by the UK and the rest of the world. The complex technical, economic, social and political issues will be navigated by a panel of experts drawn from industry, local government and academia, including leading University of Manchester specialists: Professor Kevin Anderson from the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change and Dr David North from the Sustainable Consumption Institute.
Some of the issues up for discussion will be the controversial fracking process and its potential contribution or threat to the carbon agenda; the favoured alternatives to fossil fuel energy e.g. renewable and nuclear energy; Government policy on transport; the viability of carbon capture and storage … and much more.
Register for free online
Reader Comments (28)
2012?
Ahh, the C-word. Again. Straight from the BBC lexicon.
They got that bit right.
One of these days someone is going to organise a debate around "whether we need to" instead of "how" and we're all going to miss it because we think it's a misprint!
Is a low carbon energy future possible? Yes, I believe it is - a practical issue, and soluble. Greens - please help by moving to a bunker in Antarctica as quickly as possible!
no 2013 .. just a typo...Mr Google doesn't show anything for 2012
It's advertised on the Manchester U Staff page guess what is pictured in the photo
- Register page says 2013
.. There is a reception afterwards
"Title: Meeting the climate change"
Does that mean someone is going to bring the climate change to the meeting to be introduced to those in attendance.
What is sustainable consumtion?
This description conjours up very nasty images in my simple mind.
Panel of experts:
Thick short planks tongued and grooved and slotted together perhaps.
Also in Manchester on same day ..By sheer coincidence It's BBC Radio 5's event
5 September Energy Day ..Thursday 7am-7pm a whole day of events
"Renewable energy will power BBC’s live news and sport radio station 5Live on Energy Day on 5 September in Manchester, England, to highlight concerns over how the UK will meet binding climate targets in the coming years."
you can be on the show
5th September 8am Thursday : The Piazza, MediaCity Manchester
"Hosted by Nicky Campbell, the Energy Secretary Ed Davey MP will be answering questions from callers and the audience as we explore a topic that polarises opinion."
I posted details of the whole days events in the DISCUSSION pages in
Live Events/Talks : Climate Change etc. Autumn 2013
"most challenging issue of the 21st Century"
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Let us forget about war, poverty, disease, slavery, pollution, etc
Yes these are minor next to climate change or whatever new name it has.
It seems clear by the whole tone:"one of the major problems faced by the UK.." that there is unlikely to be a great deal of debate. Anyway, of course a low carbon energy is possible. But life will be b....y horrible.
"We are almost guaranteed to reach 4 degrees of warming, as early as 2050, and may soar far beyond that - beyond the point which agriculture, the ecosystem, and industrial civilization can survive."
Kevin Anderson, Tyndall Centre
Clearly, another über-alarmist panel.
The actual title is: "Meeting the climate challenge: Is a low carbon energy future possible?"
http://lowcarbonenergydebate-es2.eventbrite.co.uk/?rank=6
"Meeting the climate challenge: Is a low carbon energy future possible?"
Shouldn't this question have been asked and an answer found before we committed ourselves to 'decarbonising', spending £720billion, and hugely jacking up energy costs?
Steven
It is an interesting question because the barrier is cost not technolgy.
I believe that the main reason this technology has not been advanced is mostly due to the uncertainty of climate science. Nobody is willing to commit £ billions on a project that has absolutely no other productive value. Investment is completely dependent on climate change being considered catastrophic I am guessing that the risk for investors and policymakers is too high.
Yes - who are the organisers ? Why be secret ? seems secret the only other event registered under th same user was to do with University of Manchester Dept of Social Responsibility
- don't look to be any skeptics on the panel.
- I suggest you write your simple question beforehand ..so it doesn't become a boring duckable ramble.
- Next day another event The British Energy Challenge - Manchester Exhibition Fri, 06/09/2013 - 09:00 to 17:00 (Bristol 10th, Newcastle 20th)
same deal Register .. that page lists all the gov dept's & subsidy grabbers attending
- No doubt some PR agency have honed the meme : "Should we do more to cut demand or rely more on increasing and decarbonising the energy supply"
..so : keeping status quo OR waiting for fusion OR mitiging action like CCS OR geo-engineering
are to be kept from thought
@bladeshearer ha ha ! Could they throw you out for wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with their own mis-predictions ?
- easy answer NO, cos India, China and Russia etc. will increase CO2 by more than the west can ever reduce , until fusion comes online.Perhaps the first question could be :
Why have you no-one with a sceptic viewpoint represented on this panel?
Pesadia:
" Panel of experts: Thick short planks tongued and grooved and slotted together perhaps. "
Brilliant! Thank you.
And all of that in 2 hours??
Er...
Thought about it, but I have a date with a puddle I''d like to sit in.
Isn't Kevin Anderson the one who is seriously weird about his carbon footprint? Presumably he will be walking to Manchester...and back.
Bob"fast fingers" Ward lives up to his nickname by pimping the forthcoming IPCC alarmfest:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/24/climate-change-report-fifth-assessment
Something to raise with the panel, see
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/10264185/The-wind-farms-that-generate-enough-power-to-make-a-few-cups-of-tea.html
I can recall monitoring, on an almosrt daily basis, the amount of energy being produced by renewables during our recent cold winters when a blocking high was siting over the UK. For a period of about 4 to 6 weeks, wind was producing about 3 to 5% of nameplate capacity. On a few days it managed 8%, but there were many days of just 1 or 2% of nameplate capacity. In these cold conditions, it is likely that there was no net contribution from wind since energy would have been required to heat oil, heat the blades to stop icing up, and to turn the rotors to prevent bearing/crank damage.
If the UK had been dependent upon wind for some 25 to 30% of its energy requirement, I dread to think what death toll would have arisen. There would almost certainly have to be rolling blackouts for extended periods and people would have been without central heating for klengthy periods (electricity is required for ignition and to power the circulating pump so even gas and oil fired central heating would not have worked). given the UK's old and damp hosuing stock, the premature mortality rates would have sky rocketed (they were already high those years but at leasrt the UK had coal and gas etc to rely upon).
It is matters highlighted by teh Daily telegraph arcticle that we need to sriously consider when discussing whether renewables can realistically supplant energy production from fossil fuels.
Can't get it out of my mind that if the Manchester College of Science and Technology still existed there would be no need for the Reynold Building to host this event.
I nominate Dr. Kevin Anderson for the prestigious David Viner Climate Hyperbole Prize, awarded annually to the year's most exemplary display of academic aphthae epizooticae.
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