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Bishop Hill
Bishop Hill This house would stop the annual UN climate summits
May 19, 2013 Climate: IPCC Climate: Sceptics Climate: other UN The Oxford Energy Society is to hold a rather interesting debate on 28 May. The motion, 'This house would stop the annual UN climate summits' is interesting enough, but take a look at the two teams:
Proposition
Dr Benny Peiser
Director, Global Warming Policy FoundationDavid Rose
Writer, The Mail on SundayProf Myles Allen
Leader, ECI Climate Research ProgrammeOpposition
David Symons
Director, WSP Environment and EnergyFiona Harvey
Environmental Journalist, The GuardianDr Chukwumerije Okereke
Reader in Environment & Development, University of Reading
That should set the cat among the pigeons.
Reader Comments (18)
Myles Allen will end up on the winning side, whichever one it is.
A load of green piggies argueing over how deep they should their noses in the bucket .
Well, I don't know what he's up to, but on the face of it, this is a refreshing display by Prof. Allen, and I am impressed. He is willing to share a public platform and a position (or if not a position, at least a wished-for result, viz. no more annual summits) with the other 'side', people some on his 'side' would refuse to have anything to do with.
So that's refreshing. Good for him.
Keep the summits going. They make it easy to explain to the man in the pub how stupid the green enterprise is. "I will stop flying when they stop flying".
Bit like Prince Charles touring the country telling us to be frugal ... in a train.
Or the biofuels crew "destroying the rainforest to save it".
Or my greenie friend wanting to leave a better future for her children by not having children.
Let then do these stupid things and we call them out on each one.
If it pleases the gods to receive this attention, who are we to argue?
Fen Beagle Cartoon...
http://fenbeagleblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/the-arrogantauts/
John Shade,
I agree. Good for him. To even be in the same room as a dirty "denier" is too much for some. So hat's off to the bloke. The fact that he's on the same side of the debate as messrs Peiser and Rose is all the more extraordinary.
Allen disappoints. - gavin
Bemoaning the apparent cutbacks in DEFRA climate change staff, Fiona Harvey wrote in yesterday's Guardian:
"The UK is facing a multibillion-pound bill over the next few years for the costs of adapting to the effects of climate change - including flooding, much fiercer storms, droughts, heatwaves and more extreme weather."
I hope she alarms in person more effectively than she does in writing...
I think Myles Allen is repositioning himself.
He's bright enough to see the sea change.
And numerate enough to have seen it a long time ago. Still, better late than never.
Presumably Myles Allen will be arguing that the summits are redundant because it's time for the UN's climate futurologists to rule the world by decree.
I'll wait and see. Maybe he might argue for holding them every six months instead....
Dr Benny Peiser will be the man to watch. Allen needs to earn his stripes.
Heh, Myles is riding the new political wave. He is kicking up dust at a "home game" to position himself as a bridge between the activists and the UKIP. But what does this stupid yank know...
Let's hear what he has to say.
One could approach such a debate with an argument that insists this issue is so crucial to humanity that summits should end and force should replace it.
Cat among pigeons and leopards with never changing spots.
Of course annual UN climate summits are a waste of time and money. What is there to debate except thousands and thousands of hangers on will lose out on an all expences paid annual jolly somewhere?
Anybody who has been anywhere near anything to do with the UN will know what an obscene waste of other peoples' money it is.
If only the annual CO2 spewing anti-CO2 jamboree could be halted by appeal to reason.
With that line up it looks like a slam/dunk for the proposition.
Can't wait for the video/transcript!