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Monday
Apr222013

A bit sensitive - Josh 216

Not sure which direction Dana 'Scooter' Nuccitelli is going but I dont think it is too worrying.

H/t to Anthony for suggesting this cartoon.

Cartoons by Josh

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Reader Comments (35)

Great cartoon. Should have had him riding on the median. :)

Apr 22, 2013 at 7:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil R

That looks like a "mean" machine.

Apr 22, 2013 at 7:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe Public

Trust Dana to use that "mode" of transport.

Apr 22, 2013 at 7:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe Public

Does he enter Jeremy Clarkson lookalike contests? – 'twould be a hoot if he did!

Apr 22, 2013 at 7:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterRadical Rodent

he's an average guy

Apr 22, 2013 at 7:31 PM | Registered Commenteromnologos

To quote Flanders and Swann, "a transport of delight". Although of course they were referring to another mode of transport.

Apr 22, 2013 at 7:46 PM | Registered CommenterHaroldW

Not sure whether Tallbloke would approve of this mode of transport. His machine is much more mean. Is that a whoopee cushion to give it some uphill oomph?

Apr 22, 2013 at 8:38 PM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

Bright-on Super-Trouper.

Apr 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM | Registered CommenterPharos

Still struggling with 'Dana' as a male name. It says Eurovision Song Contest to me. Twice. One definitely female, the other, well, look here for an explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_International.

Apr 22, 2013 at 10:16 PM | Registered Commenterflaxdoctor

Can I claim TM rights to the scooter nickname? I started some time ago referring to him by that name.

Apr 22, 2013 at 11:08 PM | Unregistered Commentertimg56

Eurovision Song Contest Song tittles...

Born To Be Wild Mild (suggested by Anthony)
A Boy Named Sue Dana

Apr 22, 2013 at 11:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterJustin Templer

According John Cook in the Tree Hut Files, Nuccitelli is a cyborg, which goes to prove how unskeptical SkS is about everything.

My fav SkS cartoon hasn't been drawn yet. It would look something like John Cook and his 300 astro-turfing Spartans holding back endless hordes of Persian WUWTians. No need to draw rippling abdominal muscles for that lot, of course.

Apr 22, 2013 at 11:29 PM | Unregistered CommentersHx

Pink suits him.

Apr 22, 2013 at 11:40 PM | Unregistered CommenterOtter

Where's his partner?

http://favim.com/image/361932/

Apr 23, 2013 at 3:04 AM | Unregistered CommenterJohn M

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kuew79nCbZ1qzsahoo1_500.jpg

Apr 23, 2013 at 5:20 AM | Unregistered CommenterSteve McIntyre

John M and Steve McIntyre :)

Apr 23, 2013 at 6:43 AM | Unregistered Commentersue

Apr 22, 2013 at 7:31 PM | omnologos:

he's an average guy

Yes, very average.

Apr 23, 2013 at 7:00 AM | Unregistered CommenterStreetcred

Nuccitelli - As seen on TV?

Apr 23, 2013 at 7:30 AM | Unregistered CommenterGummerMustGo

Slightly OT but related, Cook's partial masterpiece is featured on Climate Progress

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/22/1902101/study-finds-free-market-ideologues-doubt-climate-science-yet-buy-conspiracy-theories/

Is it me or is this a 6 month old dead donkey someone is still flogging ?

Apr 23, 2013 at 8:21 AM | Unregistered CommenterMorph

Born to be a child

Apr 23, 2013 at 8:32 AM | Unregistered CommenterConfusedPhoton

It should go without saying, but this kind of personal attack, however mild, is unnecessary and only devalues the debate on all sides. Nuccitelli's appearance and/or chosen mode of transport are of negligible interest compared to his words and actions, so this kind of thing is a distraction at best.

Apr 23, 2013 at 9:09 AM | Unregistered CommenterChris Long

Chris sorry but why do you feel so aggrieved over a mild ribbing ?considering the other side regularly want us put on trial /hung /blown up /destroyed /blocked from free speech /media/politics /academia and shunned and treated as mentalists ! I hardly think another great cartoon by Josh will break poor little Dana's ego !
Oh and if you think this is' bad'?? wait till you hear what real bikers think about scooter types !

Apr 23, 2013 at 9:31 AM | Unregistered CommenterMat

@ Chris Long:

Don't worry about Dana - sensitivity is low.

Apr 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM | Unregistered Commenterssat

Chris sorry but why do you feel so aggrieved over a mild ribbing ?considering the other side regularly want us put on trial /hung /blown up /destroyed /blocked from free speech /media/politics /academia and shunned and treated as mentalists ! I hardly think another great cartoon by Josh will break poor little Dana's ego !
Oh and if you think this is' bad'?? wait till you hear what real bikers think about scooter types !
Apr 23, 2013 at 9:31 AM Mat

I'm 100% with Chris Long. The cretinous behaviour of "the other side" in no way justifies ridiculing someone on the basis of their appearance and means of transport.

Several people have stated that they became convinced there was something wrong with climate science as a result of the atmosphere of nastiness they found at Realclimate etc and the contrasting air of tolerance and open discussion they found at sceptic blogs.

I just don't see that ridiculing people is helpful or desirable, whether it is done by cartoon or by written word.

Apr 23, 2013 at 11:02 AM | Registered CommenterMartin A

I think you're all being mean to him. He's just an average guy.

(While Josh is a way up in the PDF!)

Apr 23, 2013 at 11:38 AM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Bates

Well Martin if you think that we should all shut up and only speak when we have peer reviewed rebuttals and facts all delivered from a 'holier then thou ' style then I'm 100% behind Josh if those egos and abusive types cannot take comedy then to be honest tough !

Apr 23, 2013 at 11:57 AM | Unregistered CommenterMat

I agree that a bit of ribbing or satirical [Jj]oshing should be harmless, in context, but this is an entire post dedicated to belittling an opponent because he rides a scooter. Obviously I support anyone's right to enter the debate in whatever way they choose, I'm just pointing out that a casual visitor to Bishop Hill yesterday would have found the top post to be somewhat puerile and (I hope we all agree) not representative of the standard of informative debate normally found here.

I can, and do, visit WUWT if I want to read some more 'robust' opinions on climate researchers, I was just a little disappointed to find this sort of thing at Bishop Hill.

Apr 23, 2013 at 12:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterChris Long

"an entire post dedicated to belittling an opponent because he rides a scooter"

Uh oh. The internet might explode.

Andrew

Apr 23, 2013 at 3:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterBad Andrew

Chris,

It has nothing to do with belittling Dana because he rides a scooter. At least that played no part in my reffering to him by that name some while back. Dana Nuccetelli is a nasty piece of work. He attacks and belittles people all the time. It is impossible to miss the fact he thinks rather highly of his own opinion and has little respect for any who don't agree with him. What I find most humorous is his dismissing critics as not being climate scientists, while he is no more qualified than I am to weigh in on the subject. In other words, "Scooter" behaves like a spoiled kid much of the time. His riding around on a scooter is simply the cherry on top of the farce that is Dana1981.

PS - there is also the fact that "Scooter" is more concise than what first came to mind seeing Nuccitelli's postings - i.e. John Cook's little attack puppy.

Apr 23, 2013 at 5:04 PM | Unregistered Commentertimg56

Martin if you think that we should all shut up and only speak when we have peer reviewed rebuttals and facts all delivered from a 'holier then thou ' style....

Mat - your words entirely. I said nothing remotely like that or implying that.

You obviously did not get the point I was making. I should evidently have explained more clearly why I think BH postings ridiculing people are undesirable.

Apr 23, 2013 at 8:26 PM | Registered CommenterMartin A

Timg56,

"It has nothing to do with belittling Dana because he rides a scooter."

I take your point, but that's why I specified 'in context' above. This post, as it stands, is specifically, and only, a cartoon ridiculing an opponent in the climate debate because he rides a scooter. I know some of the context and you apparently know more, and you feel that such an attack is justified in context. My hypothetical visitor to Bishop Hill doesn't know the context and will just see some skeptics poking fun at a warmist because he doesn't have proper four-wheeled transportation; old-skool hippy-bashing.

The Bishop can run his house however he likes, I'm just voicing an opinion... for me, the key in this debate is focussing on the facts, uncertainties and fictions of the science, and avoiding the temptation to engage in lowest-common-denominator name-calling.

Apr 23, 2013 at 9:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterChris Long

"poking fun at a warmist because he doesn't have proper four-wheeled transportation"

I thought we were poking fun at him because he doesn't have proper two-wheeled transportation, i.e. a motorcycle.

Apr 23, 2013 at 9:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames P

Why does showing him on a scooter make fun of him or the scooter? Are you by any chance an under-admired scooter-rider, Chris? As ever with Josh, the cartoon is a gentle ribbing, and in this case of someone who by some accounts is not a very gentle character - hence the fun of the drawing. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he has it on his wall already.

I think, myself, that taking the piss out of such people is good for everyone.

Apr 23, 2013 at 10:26 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

John Abraham and dana1891 are in the Guardian. They have a feature called "97% consensus".

John Abraham and Dana Nuccitelli are perpetrating a fraud.

Apr 24, 2013 at 12:49 PM | Registered Commentershub

Chris,

In general I agree with you regarding name calling and focusing on stuff not relevant to the debate. I would say that Dana Nuccitelli is undeserving of any sympathy. If one expects to be treated with respect, they need to treat others in the same fashion. Scooter apparently hasn't matured to the point of recognizing this simple truism.

Apr 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM | Unregistered Commentertimg56

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