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Friday
Nov292013

More Wiz from the Kidz - Josh 247

 

In a bid to outdo the 10:10 campaign the SkS kidz have launched a Hiroshima app. What a great idea!

H/t Watts up with that. And there is a related video by Bob Tisdale here.

Cartoons by Josh

 

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I can feel the heat of that picture... or is it the steam coming out of the ears of SkS members :-)

Classic!

Nov 29, 2013 at 4:33 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

I propose a corollary to Godwin's Law to cover the abuse of historical episodes of genocide and/or mass murder for purely propagandist purposes.

As noted by somebody on twitter, the SkS app has the mushroom cloud in the background for the specific reason of instigating scare in its audience because of the thousands and thousands who died. It's the ultimate example of the climate activists' penchant to nourish out of dead people.

Nov 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM | Registered Commenteromnologos

With respect I think it goes far beyond Godwin. Call it Morabito's Law. There's something that reeks very badly here, in the persistence of denier, now this. These people must be stopped.

Nov 29, 2013 at 5:47 PM | Registered CommenterRichard Drake

Let's call it "John Cook's" Law. It has a certain ring to it does it not? :)

Regards

Mailman

Nov 29, 2013 at 6:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterMailman

Here's an alternative way to visualize the energy imbalance, rather than Hiroshimas/second...Last I knew, energy imbalance estimates were on the order of 0.6 W/m^2. Imagine an 11 ft-by-11ft room (11 m^2). Put a 7 W night-light bulb -- an older incandescent bulb, not one of the newer LED bulbs which draw much less power -- in the ceiling. Sit on the floor, and sense the heat coming from the fixture.

There's an alternative, tastier metric here.

Nov 29, 2013 at 6:50 PM | Registered CommenterHaroldW

Riiiiight....I figure it's Cook on the left (?). But I'm still trying to figure the lack of his right shoe....knowing and enjoying Josh's subtleties... :-)

Nov 29, 2013 at 6:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterSnotrocket

...but I do see that they're out on a limb! Classic!

Nov 29, 2013 at 6:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterSnotrocket

See the branch is about to break. And the other shoe is about to drop.

We can call it Cook and Nuccitelli's Law of Climate Vultures: Wherever there is death and destruction, sometimes even in the past, the climate birds will appear, like carrion crow.

"Fear is an instructer of great sagacity, and the herald of all revolutions. One thing he teaches, that there is rottenness where he appears. He is a carrion crow, and though you see not well what he hovers for, there is death somewhere."

-Emerson

Nov 29, 2013 at 7:40 PM | Registered Commentershub

The Dominic Standbrook Cold War Documentary this week featured a BBC TV Drama Documentary from 1984 called "Threads".It was about a fictional outbreak of the third world war and a Nuclear Attack on the city of Sheffield.

The first part was rather slow young couple expecting a child planning their wedding with US Soviet hostilities building up in the background.Then the actual Nuclear explosion was quite spectacular in an era before CGI.Milk bottles melting a woman bystander watching the mushroom cloud wetting herself stunt set peices then lots of stock footage of buildings exploding burning firestorms etc

The shocking part was the final bleak act the whole surviving population revert back to medieval feudalism and eating rats.The Children were deformed and educationally sub normal.Monty Python Jabawocky Holy Grail without the laughs

The main idea in "Threads" was Nuclear Winter.

An idea originally put forward by Carl Sagen.

A nuclear war could throw up so many millions of tons of Smoke particles that it would blot out the sun for decades and stop agriculture and mankind rebuilding.
I read up on Nuclear Winter and it was fashionable theory propagated by the left and the peace campaigners during the cold war obviously ,but was disproved in the aftermath of the Desert Storm .Saddam Hussian ordered his retreating forces to set fire to the Kuwait oil wells .They predicted that the smoke would hang in the atmosphere over the Middle east for decades causing a 10% reduction in temperature over the middle east .The pollution washed out in less than 10 days.
Even the Dinosaurs were still around a few thousand years after the Meteorite impact and Prolonged Winter that was supposed to have wiped them out.

Climate Change and Nuclear Winter have a lot common old ideas put forward by scientists and some cases the same scientists and media with a political axe to grind and not really theoretically or experimentally provable.

Maybe if we can properly discredit old scientific urban myths from the past we can discredit scientific urban myths from the present

The only part of Threads that has really upset me was that Victoria O keeffe young actress who played Jane Beckett born after the Nuclear attack and barely survives the aftermath was herself killed in motorway car crash outside Liverpool with another young couple and their baby in 1990 and she was only 21 .Such a waste of a young life.

PS On a happier note anybody just watch the Channel 5 Documentary about Polar Ice breaking ships.

Nov 29, 2013 at 8:07 PM | Unregistered Commenterjamspid

You get a calculated energy imbalance when you mix up its potential and kinetic forms: something that evry fule dusnt kno.

Nov 29, 2013 at 8:35 PM | Unregistered Commenterssat

Well I for one think it is completely wrong to make fun of what I think we have to call today 'people with learning difficulties'

Nov 29, 2013 at 8:53 PM | Unregistered Commenterdolphinlegs

The Guardian proclaims- 'New widget counts global warming happening at 4 Hiroshima atomic bombs per second. The counter puts global warming into understandable terms and is available for blogs, Facebook, and iPhones/iPads'

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/nov/25/global-warming-counter-widget?CMP=twt_gu

Disgraceful

UKIP puts Josh cartoon no 233 as a full page spread in its Energy Policy Statement.

http://www.ukipmeps.org/uploads/file/energy-policy-2014-f-20-09-2013.pdf

Delightful

Nov 29, 2013 at 9:35 PM | Registered CommenterPharos

The SkS crowd spend their entire time in damage control. Everything they do results in an ever larger crisis. Gotta wonder if, unknown to themselves, this is not precisely their only objective...

Nov 29, 2013 at 11:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterBrute

I enjoyed the Bob Tisdale video that Bish linked to. The famous radiation imbalance is 0.6 W/m².

Bob Tisdale points out that the uncertainty on this figure is +/- 17W/m².

Nov 29, 2013 at 11:11 PM | Registered CommenterMartin A

Josh is good but he misses the main physical characteristic of Cook and Nuccitelli, The fixed grins. They are always grinning like dogs with two cocks in every picture you see of them. They do not have the demeanour of serious men with weighty issues on their minds. Quite the opposite. I have seen one picture where Cook and Lewandowsky (who in his videos normally looks like a constipated toad on methedrine) cackles merrily into the camera his bright yellow teeth glinting in the sun.

It doesn't add up that such doom-mongers would be so cheerful.

Nov 30, 2013 at 12:31 AM | Unregistered CommenterPeter Crawford

Having now offended the Japanese, may I (as a relative of jews who fled Nazi Germany) suggest a new app graduated in ovens, just to finish the job?

Nov 30, 2013 at 12:35 AM | Unregistered Commenterstun

Climate alarmists think that the public is ignoring them because the presentation of the 'message' isn't scary enough, just like a crooked property developer thinks his high-rise condo plans get knocked back because the bribe wasn't big enough.

They lack the self-awareness needed to step back and take a broader look. Hence, exploding 10:10s, Hiroshimas and all the other nasty BS which turns people even further off their 'message'.

Nov 30, 2013 at 3:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterRick Bradford

how about a child#s night light analogy..
Scott Denning explained how much energy to John Cook, John was not impressed by Scott’s analogy:

from the SkS forum(leak): John Cook

“I asked various climate scientists for quotes on global warming and Scott Denning gave me this:

“Doubling CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere would add 4 watts to every square meter of the Earth’s surface. This is equivalent to running a child’s night light on every square meter permanently.”.

Somehow, 3 nuclear bombs per second sounds a lot more impressive than a child’s night light! “- J Cook

Nov 30, 2013 at 9:18 AM | Unregistered CommenterBarry Woods

Omnologos;
'It's the ultimate example of the climate activists' penchant to nourish out of dead people'

A Coronal Mass Ejection App would be more relevant and scary to the young people of today. Problem is, it doesn't insult anyone.

Nov 30, 2013 at 9:27 AM | Unregistered Commenterbullocky

I searched WUWT's thread and didn't see anyone askings questions like.

Is the figure the app comes up with accurate?
How did they measure it?

I can't calculate anything in energies, but I can't believe the figure shown on the app. Heck, I'm not even sure if the picture is of the app or a mock up.

Dec 1, 2013 at 8:52 PM | Unregistered CommenterGreg Cavanagh

I am back on my thread about "Threads"

Written by Barry Hinds who wrote Kes who i read is now suffering with Dementia and directed by Mick Jackson who subsequently went on to A list Hollywood fame directing LA story with Steve Martin and with Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston in the Bodyguard.

Threads is a very grim BBC TV Drama about a Nuclear attack on the city Sheffield at the height of Reagan Thatcher Cold War era paranoia made in 1984.More miserable than Eastenders.Even by today's standards it still horrifically shocking.

A nuclear war is not winnable but it is survivable.Question is would you want to survive it then rebuild afterwards.

Lefty BBC thought Threads would finally win the election for CND supporting Neil Kinnock but Mrs Thatcher was finally ousted by her party ushered in the era of EU, Free Market supporting John Major ,Tony Blair and his clone David Cameron and we still spend 30 billion pound on Trident Nuclear Submarines.How many Wind Turbine would that buy.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/az5/link_nuclear_winter_a_reminder/

Check out the comments from the link.
The Australian Bush fires of Black Saturday 2007 generated the the same amount of energy as 1000 Hiroshima bombs and millions of tons of smoke no adverse affect on the local climate.No nuclear type winter

Left wing luvvie type CND Peace activists are cut from the same cloth and same lineage as Climate fear mongering Luvvie Environmentalists . Debunk the Nuclear Winter theory and seriously put theirs noses out of joint.

23rd September 2014 will be the 30th anniversary of the showing of Threads.Good time to reevaluate it.
I repeat if you can debunk some of the wild hysterical junk science theories from the past you can start to debunk the wild hysterical junk science theories from the present

Dec 2, 2013 at 6:24 PM | Unregistered Commenterjamspid

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