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Energy prices - the truth

BBC Radio 4 has a programme tonight called Energy Prices - The Truth. It's due to go out at 8pm.

Hannah Barnes asks where the money from your energy bills goes. Do the energy companies have anything to hide, and are customers are being ripped off?

I wonder if we will hear anything about levelised costs, about the trick of reporting costs to consumers only to the extent that they appear on bills, or about not including the cost of grid connections for all those wind farms?

The show seems to feature a lot of greens so my guess would be not.


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"BBC Radio 4 has a programme tonight called Energy Prices - The Truth" - aren't the terms BBC and truth contradictions

Nov 21, 2013 at 6:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterConfusedPhoton

@ ConfusedPhoton Nov 21, 2013 at 6:56 PM

No more so than BBC and Trust.

Nov 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe Public

Having listened to the first 20 mins this seems to be an identikit BBC "how can we help the Labour party" programme.

Nov 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM | Registered CommenterBishop Hill

Green groups give up on Warsaw climate talks

We may allow ourselves a brief period of rejoicing - Churchill

Nov 21, 2013 at 8:35 PM | Registered CommenterMikeHaseler

Bishop Hill@8:19 PM

By buying individually Milibranded, hand crafted, red painted electrons from The Labour Party of course! (Couldn't resist!) electrons for votes! rollup ! Party members get free ration. T&C apply - only one per household.

but muddled insane "thinking" prevails.... Labour must be planning the left equivalent of Boris bikes fitted with alternators (for non Party members obviously)

Nov 21, 2013 at 8:58 PM | Registered Commentertomo

I've given up listening to any of these types of programme on the BBC, in case the radio gets smashed. On the PM programme this evening, there was a Conservative MP and a FoE spokesman arguing about Camoron's green crap. The only thing they could agree on was that the Typhoon in the Pilippines was caused by climate change that we must do something about it.

Nov 21, 2013 at 8:59 PM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

I wonder why it was deemed necessary to emphasise that this program, of all, should be The Truth.

Nov 21, 2013 at 9:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterBengt Abelsson


I liked the statement

"“We are walking (out) to send a strong message due to the total inaction at the talks, due to lack of ambition and finance, at a time when we need the most action.”"

Like children who are no longer centre of attention, they take the huff and storm out!

Nov 21, 2013 at 9:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterConfusedPhoton

ConfusedPhoton, they've finally realised that these talks are going nowhere and they've just been strung along ... probably all the way since Copenhagen.

It is like the emperors new clothes, no politician wanted to tell these green NGOs that they had no clothes, they were never going to get new clothes and even if they jump up and down, go green in the face & scream in a tantrum they still aren't getting it.

Nov 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM | Registered CommenterMikeHaseler

@ Bengt Abelsson - Nov 21, 2013 at 9:01 PM

"I wonder why it was deemed necessary to emphasise that this program, of all, should be The Truth."

For the same reason that habitual liars often begin...... "To be honest, .............. "

Nov 21, 2013 at 9:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe Public

Thank you for confirming that I did the right thing by placing the welfare of my radio before my enlightenment.

Seriously, what can we do about this state of affairs? Faced with weapons grade stupidity, things are becoming desperate.

Nov 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterSchrodinger's Cat

Just dodge the TV-Tax. It's easy and you can spend the money on other things like donations to your favourite informative blogs.

Call it money for entertaining and informing rather than Left Wing narrative 24

Nov 22, 2013 at 1:04 AM | Unregistered CommenterAC1

I wonder why it was deemed necessary to emphasise that this program, of all, should be The Truth.

For the same reason that the Soviet Communist Party called its main newspaper Правда (Pravda - "Truth")

Nov 22, 2013 at 4:47 AM | Unregistered CommenterRick Bradford

Rick: That reminds me of the old Russian joke about Pravda (truth) and Izvetsia (news). "No truth in news, no news in truth"

Nov 22, 2013 at 6:56 AM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

Here is a bit of "truth" from a company that seems to be doing well out of energy distribution
"Network operator says it expected to connect up 6GW of new power plants by March 2016 but now only expects 2.5GW as investors delay projects."
So a good chance we will get power cuts during winter 2015-16. What a shame this will be after the next Westminster election.

Nov 22, 2013 at 8:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Peter

Confused Photon

I bet they slammed the door on the way out.

Nov 22, 2013 at 8:10 AM | Unregistered CommenterMessenger

Read and Weep

Nov 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM | Unregistered CommenterBrianJay

The previous government passed the Climate Change Act with the explicit intention of making energy more expensive for the domestic consumer.

The current government was elected on the clear intention of not changing that.

So we can hardly blame the private sector for taking the attitude:

"Well we can make domestic energy more expensive too! Why didn't you just save time, and privately just ask us to do it first? Here, let me help you!"

Nov 22, 2013 at 3:42 PM | Unregistered Commentermichael hart

The private sector is just doing what any business would do...passing on their increased costs directly to its customers! One can hardly fault them for doing that, unless you are a red commie tree hugging pinko socialist with absolutely NO real world work experience....otherwise known as a Labour party MP (Luciana Berger anyone!).


Nov 22, 2013 at 3:57 PM | Unregistered Commentermailman

So - presumably ALL BBC programmes will now incorporate the word 'Truth'...

Strictly Come Dancing - The Truth...

Dr Who - The Truth...

Eastenders - The Truth...


Nov 23, 2013 at 2:52 PM | Unregistered CommenterSherlock1

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