The Bishop, the Sky and the Leveson Inquiry
The Leveson Inquiry has just published a submission from me and Tony Newbery of the Harmless Sky blog.
The submission was prompted by Fiona Fox's evidence to the inquiry, which told a tale of wicked journalists distorting the results of noble scientists. Tony was aware, however, that the origin of the distortion was not in fact in the media but in a press release prepared by the scientists themselves, with assistance from Fox's own Science Media Centre. We have attempted to fill in some of these details for the inquiry.
The submission also covers the BBC's handling of climate science and controversies over Climategate.
Leo Hickman has pointed out a minor error. In para 22, we say that he didn't give us credit for our efforts in disclosing the fact that Outside Organisation were paid £113k by UEA. The original FOI came from Graham Stringer, but the story was broken by me. Leo did link to the copy of the Stringer response letter at BH, but we missed this because the link was only part of a text string (see the letters PDF in this post). Hope this clarifies.
Reader Comments (30)
Para 21 / p 17
Andrew! Really!Good report so far ... apart from that!
'Warmist thanks for everything so far' - Ed Acton.
Lovely if true, lovely if a typo.
I know it's a bit late now but their are quite a few instances of the Outside organisation being described as the "Outward" organisation - or is that a related company?
Also "Athony" (Anthony?) under the signature box.
Sorry for the pedantry...apart from those minor points, massive thanks are due for the enormous effort you and Tony have applied to this. I don't know how you find the time but I'm glad that you do. It is important to rebut the blatant misinformation perpetuated by the SMC.
"There"!!!
Always happens when pointing out someone else's errors! Bugger.
Is Tony's name really "Athony"? -- signature box at end.
Remember, dont feed the trolls...
Excellent submission, a lot of work went into this and it shows in its detail.
Very well said Andrew. It epitomises why I am constantly drawn to this site. You are a civilised and reasonable human being making a civilised and reasonable argument. By your restraint and logical arguments those who oppose you are shown up for what they are. [Insert appropriate nouns and adjectives here.] It warrants a contribution to the tip jar, methinks.
My post has been quoted by an odious troll. Euuuueeerrrrrggghhhh!! I feel sullied. Must take a shower or six.
Excellent work Bish and Tony
Your testimony is on the record. Whether the powers that be take any notice remains to be seen. I have long thought that the only way that climate science would change its ways would be under the scrutiny of judicial enquiry. I do not know if the Leveson Enquiry will prove to be the right forum but it can surely do no harm.
Seguimos luchando
A real tour de force Bish ( & Tony).
A huge amount of work must have gone into this, and it shows - well up to your usual standard.
I doubt anything else submitted to Leveson will be as meticulous and comprehensive - let's just hope they bother to read it.
As far as I can see, there is no link to the 11 degree press release, which is bit strange.
Here it is on the NERC website.
While I'm in critical mode, the document really is too long and I doubt whether anyone from Leveson will read all the way through it. Interesting to see Myles Allen crops up again.
On a more positive note, the point that media hype about climate change is largely due to the climate scientists themselves is a very important one. Recent example include the Greenland ice melt story and the "UK hot as Madeira in 50 years" story.
Tut tut - Foxy Fiona has been discovered going commando to Leveson by a Bishop of all people. How will she live it down?
Yes, warmist thanks for this massive effort :)
I agree with Paul that it's too long but it has many strengths. Who of us could possibly have done something this comprehensive, perfectly structured and without typos? It was vital that it wasn't Fiona Fox and the Science Media Centre who alone shaped Lord Levesen's view.
That one sentence sends a chill down my spine. Thank you that he does have an alternative view presented calmly, with full reference to the underlying documents,
The section on UEA, Phil Jones and Neil Wallis, like everything else, isn't perfect but it's completely groundbreaking. If something better ought to have been said, what has been said here is a million times better than silence.
Amazingly well done, Montford and Newbery.
Having read it once, I thought it was brilliant. After reading some of the comments here, I read it again, trying to put myself in the position of Lord Leveson and his panel who, swamped as they no doubt are with other submissions and evidence to read, might not give it the attention it deserves. Having done so, hopefully without allowing my own prejudices to get in the way, I still think it’s brilliant and it definitely draws one further and further into it. I think any of the panel that reads past the first page will read it to the end.
Thanks for kind words from various people who recognise that the submission took a while to put together. You are right!
Infuriatingly, the Leveson folk seem to have converted the MS Word file they were sent into a PDF that can't handle live links, which is why there appears to be no link to the Climate Prediction press release and a hell of a lot of other quotes. See all the underlined text aligned to the right: they were hyperlinks in the original.
So far as length is concerned, Andrew and I are all too well aware of the dangers of being prolix, but in this case, and when dealing with lawyers, it was decided that there was more risk in not being thorough than in testing the endurance of people trained to read long documents of this type.
A difficulty that all sceptics face is that nothing is likely to be taken on trust, and that makes brevity virtually impossible.
I echo all the compliments given above ^.^
I think the attraction of this report is that it reads like THSI, it contains a lot of info but it reads like a good story.
Thanks Andrew and Tony for this superb document! It would be difficult for it to be briefer and still cover the material adequately -- indeed, a whole book could be written about the kinds of malfeasance and dissembling outlined here.
I'm still absorbing it all, but I just want to say that the misrepresentations of the whole "11 degrees" affair with the press release and all make it impossible to rely upon anything Fiona Fox or Myles Allen ever wish to say again. They have grossly misrepresented what happened there, and attributed to reckless journalism what was clearly and unequivocally the reckless dishonesty of the original press release. No impartial person could read that PR and be surprised that so much of the media hyped the "11 degree" figure when that was the central thrust of the original PR.
I don't agree that it's too long. After all, it is evidence to a judicial enquiry, not a blog post. The submission is now a matter of record.
Andrew and Tony have made a Herculean effort to clean the stables with this. I hope Leveson reflects long and deeply on it.
Sterling work - again - by Messrs Montford and Newbery. The BBC programme "Overselling Climate Change" is still available here, by the way:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/thebattleforinfluence/pip/abkim/
To listen to it, you will need software that can access the RealMedia data; I recommend Real Alternative (freeware.)
This excerpt, transcribed in pages 11 and 12 of the report, is very interesting, I think, and bears repeating:
Speaking as a trained lawyer, I'd lose the adverbs. They jar when reading.
woodentop: absolutely :)
But point taken. It isn't crisp enough for me as a untrained un-lawyer who's had to engage with company law for business reasons. I'm sure you're right about the intended recipients.
There's an echo here of Latimer's concern about the lack of professionalism yesterday at the GWPF. We don't always come across as the slickest operation in town. Nor are we.
But the race doesn't always go to the swift, as the manic depressive behind the book of Ecclesiastes says. That guy too can be dead right even if he's not the greatest company down the pub on Friday night. A bit like that rogue CEO in whose mining company Steve invested long ago. He had in fact found more ore than anyone thought possible. I must one day get that story in full and the lesson Steve drew from it but here's my application for now: the truth is bigger than any imperfect document or human being drafting it.
@Latimer 'Warmist thanks for everything so far'
Regrettably a typo - following the links to the pdf (http://ccgi.newbery1.plus.com/leveson/UEA-Outside_Organisation_Emails_searchable.pdf) shows the original says "warmest"
This book outline has a theme as broad as climate, that is modern communication. I don't see any reason this can't be a huge book. There are masses of people very curious about this brave new phenomenon.
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von Storch's quote is right on target, when he describes how unscrupulous scientists play the gullible (and friendly) media types.
Richard Drake
Sounds like a rational optimist to me.Nice to see a quote from Ecclesiastes, but why “the manic depressive”?
Sadly, she won't need to.
The good Lord L will do what all elderly English gentlemen do on such occasions - cop an eyeful then avert his gaze and pretend to have seen nothing.
Aug 18, 2012 at 8:08 AM geoffchambers
Yes, not a "tipping point" in sight
I agree with those who find Andrew and Tony's submission to be a very well-written and compelling document (notwithstanding its length and typos).
Anyone reading it (and following the links which substantiate their claims) can only conclude that in the world of "climate science reporting" one should learn to expect a half-truth or no truth - but in any event (particularly an event managed by Fiona Fox and the SMC), anything but the whole truth.
As a somewhat related aside, I'm sure it's entirely coincidental that Neil Wallis should have decided to start tweeting approx. three weeks ago (very shortly after the 17 July 2012 submission by Montford and Newberry to Leveson). No doubt it is equally coincidental that Wallis has declined to respond to Andrew's polite request to him via twitter.
But it is somewhat amusing to note that in his own submission to Leveson, Wallis declared:
OK, OK ... so it's ... uh ... slightly out of context! [he was supposedly talking about Gov't PR machines]
But one has to wonder why gov't PR machines should be deemed to be more "partial and contrived" than one contracted by ... oh, I dunno ...the University of East Anglia?!
Geoff: nice point about and quote from Ecclestiastes. On the other hand I think the author's rightly depressed about the world of man. He knows nothing of the Resurrection of the one to come. And I think both sides of the climate debate can be depressed in this way, sometimes rightly so.
In the early morning before hearing Steve speak in London I finished some quite onerous work and clicked across to see what was on the telly. Thus I stumbled across the BBC's chilling documentary about the two surviving inmates of Treblinka, the most efficient death camp of 1942, murdering 800-900,000 men, women and children in half a year, something truly unprecedented in human history.
There are reasons to be depressed some times. I may have projected onto the biblical author or perhaps truly picked up on his despair. But note my application was essentially positive. This brilliant effort by Montford and Newbery could I believe win the day.