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Sub Prime Subsidies - Josh 155

We are going to look back and say "Why did we do this to ourselves...again!"

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Cartoons by Josh (a bit of a treat there for you... if you like pigeons)

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Please can you do something with the Gruaniad's TV ad that claims the three pigs framed the big bad wolf for blowing down their homes, but somehow including a bird masher in it?

Mar 7, 2012 at 7:13 PM | Registered CommenterSalopian

Another classic! Get us a Facebook "like" button, make it easier to disseminate to the "yoof"

Mar 7, 2012 at 7:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterAdam Gallon

And these are the people who are responsible

Can you imagine working for a company that only has a little more than 635 employees, but, has the following employee statistics.

29 have been accused of spouse abuse,
7 have been arrested for fraud,
9 have been accused of writing bad cheques,
17 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses,
3 have done time for assault,
71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit,
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges,
8 have been arrested for shoplifting,
21 are currently defendants in lawsuits,
84 have been arrested for drink driving in the last year,

And collectively, this year alone, they have cost the British tax payer £92,993,748 in expenses!!!

Which organisation is this?

It's the 635 members of the House of Commons.

The same group that cranks out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us in line.

What a bunch of crooks we have running our country - it says it all...

Mar 7, 2012 at 7:32 PM | Unregistered Commenterpesadia

Pesadia, is that verifiable? I don't know about the other transgressions but those with inability to get a credit card and the DUI arrests seem large numbers for any population.

Mar 7, 2012 at 7:37 PM | Unregistered Commenterj ferguson

I've given up writing to my MP about it. Even the ridiculous cost for a 0.08C reduction in global average temperature didn't get a reply.

Note: I didn't rant at him or send him an essay, just a short to the point opinion. But then you know, he's Minister for Agriculture so I suppose a very busy man.

Mar 7, 2012 at 7:43 PM | Unregistered CommenterRobinson

Pesadia, I don't believe your figures for one minute.

Mar 7, 2012 at 7:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterRobinson


We didn't do this to ourselves. It was forced on us by the EU, Blair, Brown, Miliband, Huhne, Camoron, amongst a long line of incompetents or, as pesadia would say, crooks.

Mar 7, 2012 at 7:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhillip Bratby

I was always told there was treasure at the end of the rainbow, the trouble is nobody told me that the rainbow was GREEN!

Mar 7, 2012 at 8:11 PM | Registered CommentermikemUK

Facebook plug? Good idea, I wonder if Squarespace do that...

Phillip, yes, the 'royal we' of course. But we do need to keep complaining, and that is not the 'royal we'.

Mar 7, 2012 at 8:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterJosh

Yes please - want to post this to Facebook :)

Mar 7, 2012 at 8:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterRenee


That text is also available in US Congress version with exactly the same numbers:

Mar 7, 2012 at 9:08 PM | Registered CommenterMrPotarto

Information received in good faith
Will attempt to verify it. Hope this is not my Peter Gleick moment.
Meanwhile, this is interesting

Feel disposed to reveal my real name
Peter Oneil

Mar 7, 2012 at 9:21 PM | Unregistered Commenterpesadia

The other evening the BBC carried a documentary on the subsidies given to wealthy landowners for doing nothing with their land. Funny how they don't address the huge subsidies and profits wealthy landowners are getting for allowing their land be used for an outdated method of generating power?

Mar 7, 2012 at 9:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterStacey

Josh, pigeons don't have all the fun....


Mar 7, 2012 at 9:38 PM | Unregistered CommenterNial


I'd check your references again. There are 646 seats in the house of commons to start with.

Anyways, that's all besides the point. The simple fact is the country no longer has a parliament that passes laws as that's been outsourced to Brussels.


Mar 7, 2012 at 10:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterMailman

Well, 646 according to the life in the uk test and 650 according to :)



Mar 7, 2012 at 10:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterMailman

Mr Potarto
Checking your information leads me to believe that I have made a mistake.
Apologies to all.
Sad thing is I was not surprised by the statistics which tells yo all what I think about UK MPs.

Mar 7, 2012 at 11:39 PM | Unregistered Commenterpesadia

So when Josh says "Landlords" he's basically acknowledging the fact that when a turbine gets built it is because someone has agreed for a fee to have a tower built on their property, and that the people bitching about what this someone does on their land don't own that piece of land. When did Josh go all Commie on us?

Mar 7, 2012 at 11:57 PM | Unregistered Commenterbigcitylib


I learned when someone says someone "basically" says they mean "these are my words that I am ascribing to you" (see, I can do it too).

Anyway, it would be quaint if the money the landlords were getting was actually non-subsidized private equity.

Mar 8, 2012 at 1:35 AM | Unregistered CommenterJohn M

In the US the number would be 435 for the House of Representatives and 100 for the Senate, or 535. As a group they may have a few more of some of our shortcomings, but certainly not wildly more.

Mar 8, 2012 at 2:27 AM | Unregistered Commenterj ferguson

The spider's web is a nice touch(e).

Mar 8, 2012 at 3:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterGrantB

John M - 'he's basically acknowledging.." is a robust proxy for the introduction of a strawman. Not sure of the R2 value, I've calculated it and got it somewhere. Nope can't find it, but trust me it's pretty impressive.

Mar 8, 2012 at 3:59 AM | Unregistered CommenterGrantB

+1 on the Facebook idea.

I'd love to get the message out more widely and Josh's cartoons can be a wonderful way to do so. Even somebody who knows nothing of the Climate Wars can understand this latest one in a trice.

Mar 8, 2012 at 7:50 AM | Unregistered CommenterLatimer Alder

Nial, please dont show Brian, it would upset him.

BigCityLib, not sure I follow you. The cartoon shows the flow of money from you and me (unless you are a big landowner) to landowners who rent their land to build wind turbines. We, you and me again, pay a huge amount of cash for not a lot of electricity. Pretty simple really.

Mar 8, 2012 at 4:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterJosh

Cracking cartoon, Josh - encapsulates the scam nicely..!

Mar 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterDavid

Windturbines are hazerdous to many birds especialy the larger ones and bats as well Its certianly isnt enviromentaly freindly

Mar 15, 2012 at 4:58 AM | Unregistered CommenterSpurwing Plover

The real Big Green are the millions of dollars squandred by the goverment over this GREEN ENERGY nonsense

Oct 12, 2012 at 12:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterSpurwing Plover

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