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Bishop Hill House of Lords on the Green Agenda
Jan 12, 2012 Climate: Parliament I'm currently live-tweeting the House of Lords debate on the Green Agenda (video here).
These guys (and girls) are seriously unhinged.
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It is good to see a lot of them semi-comatose or asleep tho'. And who would blame them.
And, of course, this is what is called Peer Review...
Ha Josh. I trust that with Steve Hilton and George Osborne setting government direction this form of peer review has about as much teeth as the climate version when The Team wrote the paper.
Ever-so-slightly off-topic - but relevant - just been reading Donna Laframboise's exerpts from Michael Lewis's book: 'Boomerang; Travels in the New Third World' about the recent (and ongoing) financial crisis, and compares it to the climate debate. The relevance is that it cites the 'madness of crowds' - in other words, despite the craziness of the concept, if enough people sign up to it, it becomes the 'norm'..
So - don't expect a peer to stand up any time soon and state: 'This climate change business is just so much alarmist bullsh*t, and is based completely on flawed data and computer models..'
"...These guys (and girls) are seriously unhinged..."
I suspect that is the reason that they are there...
The discussion has now turned to food - clearly Baroness Miller thinks the Green Agenda is about eating your vegetables. Excellent - works for me!
Due to inbreeding. Ask any farmer.
@Don Pablo
They ejected most of those Peers some time back. These new ones are worse - failed or senile politicians.
So GHGs are caused by sprouts?
Gecko,
The current lot are much, MUCH worse than the last lot because now they are ALL nothing more than political appointees! They all owe their allegiance to the political party that put them there!
At least with the last lot you knew they owed no one anything (apart from themselves that is:)!!!
Mailman
@Mailman,
I think that was my point.
NO, I'm certain that was my point ;)
Great...then we have made the same point together :)
Regards
Mailman
I think if I were young -- say under 30, I would definitely go back to school and learn Mandarin. There is a real lesson to be learned from watching the humanoid flora on the tele.
I haven't managed to watch/listen to the whole lot but my impressions are that the majority of the House have vested interests (financial and/or time/work) and are completely entrenched in the Green agenda. On the more positive side, they appear to be aware of (and worried about) the public becoming increasingly negative towards the agenda. That wouldn't change their minds of course but might eventually make them think.
It's a good job their speeches don't have to be factual; if they did there wouldn't have been much said.
Josh : 'The discussion has now turned to food - clearly Baroness Miller thinks the Green Agenda is about eating your vegetables. Excellent - works for me!'
With the slogan 'Eat Your Greens!' ??
Whichever way Monckton rattles your cage, he would certainly liven up this show.
Lord Turnbull (GWPF) is on at 3:57, blowing a breath of sanity between gales of unreality (Prescott and Worthington).
How the devil, Bish, did you manage to follow Prescott without sub-titles?!?!?! I'm listening to him now and I get every third word and every tenth idea. The man is full of that stuff James Evans spelled out on another thread.
He talks about CCS and calls it 'coal sequestration'! FFS!
Prescott is a dyed in the wool socialist who just wants to control - for the sake of control
Lord Turnbull spoke truth to power, it seems, but was put down by the know-nothings that make up the chamber. If only those who had a brain would have listened to him. He even managed to reference Donna's book. Great speech!! But I doubt it will make any difference to their Noble Lords. Sad.
"So GHGs are caused by sprouts?" --steveta_uk
No, no. Sprouts will make you expel carbon-neutral flatus. Really.
Sprouts are evil and growing them should be a criminal offence. It wouldn't surprise me if they were behind the whole thing.
An insight into why the AGW folly has become so entrenched is in this essay called Error cascade: a definition and examples
"No, no. Sprouts will make you expel carbon-neutral flatus. Really."
... but I suspect not sulphur-neutral
I found this great comment on Facebook which I plagiarise here without attribution.
The UK House of Lords Westminster System sounds like Lawrence Livermore Laboratories' heaviest discovered element - Governmentium (Gv) with One neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons and 198 assistant deputy neutrons....Total atomic mass of 312. The force holding them all together being morons....I have lived my whole life under this system. IMO it is not worth holding out in any hope for an epiphany from this group....