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Thursday
Sep012011

Snow

Apparently the first snows fell in the Highlands earlier in the week.

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And the Edmonton, AB, International Airport has been at -1 C for the last two hours. Three degrees warmer in my backyard, but looks like I'll be picking green tomatoes this weekend.

Sep 1, 2011 at 2:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterDave

Come on guys I wanna know if me and my little darlinks are gonna burn or freeze, anywhere in between is not blogworthy (London).

Sep 1, 2011 at 2:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterCamp David

I am sure it was some heat induced mirage, we don't do snow anymore in the UK, scientists said so.

Sep 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charley

I can't find any evidence of this, Bishop, but you're closer to it than I am. And certainly no-one is forecasting anything approaching snow temperatures at that altitude for the next week at least.
http://www.j2ski.com/snow_forecast/Scotland/Cairngorm_Mountain_snow.html

Sep 1, 2011 at 2:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterMike Jackson

Hmm maybe be it's the side effect of all the stress on gia?? and the mountains are going prematurely grey, quick someone phone Hanson/Gore !

Sep 1, 2011 at 2:58 PM | Unregistered Commenterzx

Yes, it's been bl**dy cold up here for the last few days for sure.

Sep 1, 2011 at 3:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterPFM

O/T but ITN news just ran an item on the Quadrilla shale gas test near Blackpool

The newsreader introduced the piece by saying US shale gas development had a "'huge environmental cost". The VT then went on to show extensive clips from Gasland and an interview with a Tyndall alarmist - with no opportunity for Quadrilla to reply on the alleged environmental impacts.

Absolutely terrible biased reporting. More like a BBC report than ITN. Oh dear

[problem posting - sorry if multiple copies appear]

Sep 1, 2011 at 3:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterChilli

At least children will still know what it looks like..

Link

Sep 1, 2011 at 4:22 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames P

Weather is not climate, weather is not climate, whether the climate, the climate, is weather becoming climate, brrrrr feeling cold, hypothermia's first sign is ... what's that white stuff ... oh snow!

Seriously, we should not confuse one cold summer with a cooling climate, nor even one cold winter and one cold summer. Nor a BBQ summer, two cold winters, another cold summer and snow on Macdui with a change in the climate.

Where do we buy those car snow shoes that were so good last year?

Todo list:
- replace worn out stove
- get more coal/firewood
- stock up on provisions.
- order some car snow shoey things
- check we have plenty of battery lights & candles
- put some more insulation on the water pipes
- check the camping gas stove still works

Sep 1, 2011 at 4:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterMike Haseler

Oops did I really post my todo list?

Sep 1, 2011 at 4:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterMike Haseler

Serious question: has anyone got any update on the sunspot activity and predictions of a new maunder minimum?

It all seems to have gone quiet!

Sep 1, 2011 at 4:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterMike Haseler

Zed.......you there?

Sep 1, 2011 at 4:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharlie

I really do not see the point of this post by BH. Global warming is the reason.

Sep 1, 2011 at 5:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterEpigenes

Have seen geese moving 2 evenings in a row 2 weeks ago, this happening in Aug is normally a good indicator of a cold winter to come.

Sep 1, 2011 at 6:23 PM | Unregistered CommenterBreath of Fresh Air

Tomorrow is forecast to be 25 degrees in London. This may or may not be noteworthy also.

Sep 1, 2011 at 7:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterPeter Brown

"Tomorrow is forecast to be 25 degrees in London. This may or may not be noteworthy also."

But 25C in London is weather, snow on Ben MacDui is climbit!

Sep 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterMike Haseler

Haven't seen the top of Lawers for a week or so now, it has been too cloudy. But I think I can see a few green pixels on the tops of the Ben Macdui, Ben Alder and Creag Mheagaidh:

http://www.snow-forecast.com/maps/static/scotland/last7days/snow

It has certainly not been a warm summer - we have had to light the stove on numerous days in June July and August, which is not something we have had to do in the last 10 years at least.

Sep 1, 2011 at 8:15 PM | Unregistered Commenterlapogus

Wrong again Bish.

What looks like snow is most likely fur from dead polar bears that've boiled up in the sea - blown in on the tropical breezes that are now commonplace in the arctic circle.

Sep 1, 2011 at 8:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterDougS

Is Gore in the highlands?

Sep 1, 2011 at 8:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterZT

Here in SW France our neighbours have lit a fire indoors every month of this year. Now that is unusual.

Sep 1, 2011 at 8:41 PM | Unregistered Commenterstephen richards

This might raise a few smiles - an article in the Telegraph back in 2008, warning of the disasters to come. "The UK is to be hit by regular malaria outbreaks, fatal heatwaves and contaminated drinking water within five years because of global warming, the Government has warned the NHS."

But it isn't all gloom. "However, fewer old people are expected to die each year from cold, as climate change leads to warmer winters."

Mind you, it becomes a little less amusing if you wonder how much reports such as "Health Effects of Climate Change in the UK" contribute to the UK's lack of preparedness, when the opposite keeps happening to the sorts of things they tend to predict.

Sep 1, 2011 at 8:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlex Cull

Harbinger of Winter.

Aye, the corries are filling once again on the Cairngorms, year round snow and ice accumulations: fresh snow becomes firn, then after a summer neve builds....... glaciers reforming......could it be?

Ah, summer hol's in Braemar [and surrounds]...................... that's what I used to wish for in my youth, my imagination kindled - by reading about the LIA, not so sure I am that keen on it now.

Sep 1, 2011 at 9:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterAthelstan

It is all waeather but it has been cold these last few years. This summer was the worst for about 20 years. Winter 2009/10 worst for about 30 years and then followed by winter 2010/11 worst for about 100 years. In fact, it so long ago since we had a good summer here in the UK , I struggle to remember when we last had one.

It will be interesting to see the August global temperature anomaly, and if La Nina is coming back may be over the next few months this will go back down.

It is a depressing thought what a quiet sun and cold ocean phases may bring. I anticipate another cold winter and certainly there is a need to stock up on the firewood.

Sep 1, 2011 at 9:40 PM | Unregistered Commenterrichard verney

@ZT

Well .................

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-14094489

Sep 1, 2011 at 9:42 PM | Unregistered Commenterbk

I can remember 3y ago on newsnight that an "expert" told us climate prediction was difficult but one thing we could expect was dry summers. 2 months later the whole of gloucestershire was flooded for weeks.Some professor from a Londonistan university.

The won't dig up THOSE hystorical anecdotes our unbiased reporters at the BBC.
they're far too scientific for that.

Sep 1, 2011 at 10:00 PM | Unregistered Commentertutut

Hansen is forecasting a barbecue winter. With the reindeers eaten, will a Prius cope with pulling Santa's sleigh?

Sep 1, 2011 at 10:33 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charley

BBQ winter = Bloody Big Quilt

Sep 1, 2011 at 11:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterScots Renewables

BBQ summer= Buy Biofuel Quick
BBQ winter= Buy Biofule Quick

Precautionary principle, natch.

Sep 1, 2011 at 11:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterAtomic Hairdryer

As a yottie, beware of biofuels. They are more likely to cause a problem than decent fuels derived from petrochemicals.

And they do not deprrive people of food

Sep 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charley

@bk thanks - it is worse than we thought...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-14094489

"A little prod in the right direction from Mr Gore in the global spotlight would do wonders in firming up Scotland's resolve on climate change."

(I think we can safely conclude that Mr Gore will not be visiting Glasgow).

Sep 2, 2011 at 12:21 AM | Unregistered CommenterZT

@ZT, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:21 AM. You say:

"(I think we can safely conclude that Mr Gore will not be visiting Glasgow)."

I wouldn't be so sure. I am rather certain that if you offered him a sufficient speaker's and expenses plus limo service (and appropriate carbon offsets) he would gladly rant on in Glascow and perhaps even throw in a few profanities to show that he was one of the boys back in 'Nam.

Sep 2, 2011 at 12:35 AM | Unregistered CommenterRayG

bish,
david leigh of the guardian is in the news again, big-time:

2 Sept: Independent: Jerome Taylor: Guardian journalist accused of recklessly disclosing password
Access to an unencrypted 1.73-gigabyte file containing more than 251,000 uncensored diplomatic cables has been made possible thanks to the distribution of a password that unlocks a secret cache.
WikiLeaks has blamed David Leigh, The Guardian's investigations editor, for publishing a password given to him by the group last year in a book he wrote with his fellow journalist Luke Harding about his time working with the whistle-blowing website.
The newspaper hit back by blaming WikiLeaks for using sloppy security protocols, adding that the unencrypted version of the cables now on the web was not the one accessed by the paper last year.
But in a 1,600-word statement WikiLeaks accused Leigh of "recklessly, and... knowingly" disclosing the decryption password in his book, which was published in February. The organisation added: "Knowledge of The Guardian disclosure has spread privately over several months but reached critical mass last week."
WikiLeaks accused The Guardian of undoing months of work that its team had done with partner media organisations and human rights groups in redacting sensitive files. A source close to the group told The Independent that only three people had been given access to the encryption password: Julian Assange, Leigh and one other WikiLeaks staffer.
But yesterday The Guardian denied those claims, stating that it had gone to great lengths to persuade WikiLeaks to take the protection of informants and confidential sources more seriously. Blaming WikiLeaks for using the same password to access different databases, the newspaper claimed that the file to which it was given access in July 2010 would only be on a secure server for a few hours and then taken off. "It appears that two versions of this file were subsequently posted to a peer-to-peer file-sharing network using the same password," the newspaper said.
Yesterday, Mr Assange said he was unable to comment further because of "ongoing legal issues". But he denied that the password he gave to the newspaper was temporary.
"Encryption is no more temporary than the translation of a book into another language," he said. "It's no more temporary than cutting off an arm."...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/guardian-journalist-accused-of-recklessly-disclosing-password-2347842.html

Sep 2, 2011 at 3:50 AM | Unregistered Commenterpat

Mike Haseler "...snow on Ben MacDui is climbit!"

"climbit" huh, Mike? Neat, sir!

Sep 2, 2011 at 5:03 AM | Unregistered CommenterRoger Carr

richard verney:

"In fact, it so long ago since we had a good summer here in the UK , I struggle to remember when we last had one."

These things must be extremely localised. Where I live we've had a fantastic summer. Only problem's been the lack of rain, so some of the plants have suffered. People living not far in each direction have had plenty of rain - so they're a bit puzzled when they see how dry our garden is.

We had another really good summer a couple of years back.

Sep 2, 2011 at 7:09 AM | Unregistered CommenterJames Evans

@ZT

If he were in Glasgow he would certainly feel at home.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-14595801

Sep 2, 2011 at 8:57 AM | Unregistered Commenterbk

Not snowing in Lincolnshire, but I'm sure that the vast majority of our swallows have left this week.
They usually stay much longer.

Sep 2, 2011 at 9:38 AM | Unregistered CommenterAdam Gallon

Last year, I wrote that the berries on the cotoneaster, quite numerous, had been eaten by garden birds before the end of October, as were the small rose hips and rowan berries.
I thought we'd be in for a cold winter - well, we all remember how cold that winter was, and how early it started.

This year, I was stunned by how early a huge number of wild flowers, grasses and trees set seed. That started from the middle of July, and no, it was most certainly not due to lots of sun and warmth.
Since the middle of last month, apples ripened and berries (holly, hawthorn, cotoneaster) did so as well.

The swallows left during the last few days - but more significantly, garden birds, who flock together in the countryside in late summer, have started to come back into town. Also, the small black-headed gulls who breed inland on the moors, started to come back about three weeks ago, in August. And - the starlings have left, presumably to gather together in those famous 'starling clouds' in the countryside - which, according to the RSBP, should be observable from November ...

All this does not bode well - I suggest we're in for an early winter, based on my 'biological' observations.
Stock up on fuel, on warm cardies, and check that you have non-leaking hottie-botties!

Sep 2, 2011 at 10:27 AM | Unregistered CommenterViv Evans

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