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Bishop Hill Mann: emails disclosed are "boilerplate"
Aug 25, 2011 Climate: Mann FOI A couple more hints about the Mann email disclosures by way of an article in Science Insider:
In a press release this afternoon, ATI said it had received "a 4.3 megabyte disk that contains 3,827 pages" of data. Paul Chesser, ATI's executive director, said ATI staff members had not had a chance to review the contents. "We think we got a third" of the documents requested, Chesser said. Mann, who says the university is keeping him abreast of the documents it releases, says they consist of routine e-mail messages and similar "boilerplate."
Apparently more documents will be released next month.
Reader Comments (30)
From the Science Insider piece: "U.Va has not turned over emails related to discussions of research, unpublished manuscripts, private discussions between scientists about science, etc.,--i.e., any of the materials that are exempt from release by state law," Mann wrote in an e-mail message.
It will be interesting to see if the U.Va rate email exchanges about FOI induced email deletion as 'private discussions between scientists about science'(!)! Either way, I trust that this famous email exchange, or its absence, feature in ATI's press briefings.
Quelle surprise, eh?!
I wish to read the e-mails that discuss which specific e-mails should be disclosed. Moreover, we should continue in this manner until something incriminating turns up.
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The real Zed never posts this late, or is heavily under the influence........
Agreed, that is not our Zed.
a) She's not a four letter girl and
b) Its relevant to the thread ;)
But it does remind me of the infamous meme, 'Leave Brittany Spears alone now!' . Google for it :)
So with this list of what will not appear, how come there is anything left?
E-mail exchanges beween scientists regarding published papers? If so which published papers would have most annoyed The Team. and when were they published?
Dear friends,
The historical review of the deep roots of Climategate has been updated to add reference [1] noting the remarkable similarity between “Lysenkoism” under Joseph Stalin in the old USSR and post-modern SSM and AGW dogmas.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10640850/20110722_Climategate_Roots.pdf
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10640850/20110722_Climategate_Roots.doc
Please inform me if you find typos in the documents.
With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
Former NASA Principal
Investigator for Apollo
"emails related to discussions of research, unpublished manuscripts, private discussions between scientists about science, etc."
There's three years of courtroom wrangling over definitions in that statement right there, if the judge permitted it.
"Private discussions between scientists about science" - please excuse me if my bovine excrement meter just caught fire.
Th remaining emails will be released after adjustment and homogenisation....
Agreed, that is not our Zed.
a) She's not a four letter girl and
b) Its relevant to the thread ;)
I missed the deleted posting, but I do hope that it was an imposter for I do hope our Zed the best. She is entertaining and she is, after all, our Zed.
And to Zed, if you have been doing bad things to yourself, we do care. We might disagree, but you our our Zed. Take care.
I'm sort of with you on this DP but I must share a disagrement on a minor point of order. Yes, I agree that 4-letter fumblings have never been a trademark of our Truro Titan. The entertainment value is, of course, priceless but I'm not so sure about the gender of our wee goblin.
I suspect that not only is ZInDaBed not a Lady but a double male.
A HeHe!
Darn it. I almost googled 'just three pound a month to help ZIDB- just free £ a month' AND with my credit card close at hand.
Twas a bit of a toss-up between that charity and the Union of conCERNed scientists.
Luckily, I fell asleep before penning this post!
I was thinking we hadn't heard from Zed for a while, and was wondering if she had taken herself off to the Priory.
@ RoyFOMR Aug 26, 2011 at 3:05 AM
I'd say at least double, dunno about the gender(s), probably a shared flat.
"wondering if she had taken herself off to the Priory."
Get thee to a nunn'ry?
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Aug 25, 2011 at 10:19 PM | Zed
Imitation is the sincerest form, and all that. No idea what was posted there, but in case there is any confusion, it wasn't me.
Style tells, the imitation poor,
We can but hope there is no moor.
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The real ZDB, easy to spot, not a trace of humility or thanks for the respect shown, by those she seeks to insult.
Please draw your own conclusions!
golf charley
I agree with your scholarly analysis. And I am so thankful that I haven't lost my primary research subject.
Th remaining emails will be released after adjustment and homogenisation....
Aug 25, 2011 at 11:34 PM | Don Keiller
Don, name me one person here or on WUWT etc etc that has not had the same thought.....Back to court room?
These people have no idea what the phrase "playing a straight bat" means! I truly do cry for all those scientists out there being tainted by the "Gang Climatologists" strategy! Mann really should be held to book for the damage he has caused but history will judge not just him but also those who have bowed to his garbage. Currently I simply can only put him on the same level of the gang minded level of the UK rioters!
Don Pablo and Pete H
With respect to ZDB and Mann's behaviour, I refer to (google)
12 steps of insanity
and rest my case
Surely..it wasn't me.
Should have been..it wasn't I.
"Women should be obscene and not heard." - Groucho Marx
What sort of format is a "4.3 megabyte disk"? I remember using an ST506 with 5Mb, but surely they're not storing valuable emails on technology that old!
Response by UEA to FOI ref Outside Organisation:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covert_operations_by_east_anglia#incoming-205254
A couple of dozen .pdf files to pick through.
Have fun.
Free hotel and free private dinner with Acton 29th Sept 2010 for Mr Wallis.
From the UEA FOI file mentioned above, I particularly enjoyed the statement from Mr Raymond Scott, Assistant Director Strategy, Policy and Compliance at UEA:
What does 'boilerplate' even mean? Is English Mr Mann's first language?
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