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Tuesday
Nov222011

The Heretic wins Evening Standard award

Congratulations to Richard Bean, whose climate sceptic play The Heretic has won an Evening Standard best play award. The award was given jointly to The Heretic and one of Bean's other plays, One Man Two Guv'nors.

I understand the show will transfer to the US and Australia in due course.

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Richard Bean won the best play award for two productions The Heretic, a climate change drama ...

The climate change drama that, just for a real change, didn't turn into a crisis - but stayed very funny throughout. The fact that audiences will have a chance to enjoy it in the US and Oz is great news. Congratulations to Richard Bean, at every level.

Nov 22, 2011 at 8:11 AM | Unregistered CommenterRichard Drake

Thought control!!! ;-)

Nov 22, 2011 at 8:21 AM | Unregistered CommenterJiminy Cricket

Good would like to see it but way too much to get anywhere it's on ! !
hmm is that bear trying to escape? mind he is smiling so maybe not .

Nov 22, 2011 at 9:25 AM | Unregistered Commentermat

Sorry for OT comment, this is important:

http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/breaking-news-foia-2011-has-arrived/

Nov 22, 2011 at 10:46 AM | Unregistered CommenterRog Tallbloke

Any Razzies-equivalent for the National Theatre's "Greenland"?

Nov 22, 2011 at 10:48 AM | Unregistered CommenterMaurizio Morabito

http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/

link to breaking news on new (22/11) FOIA "climategate round II" files release

Nov 22, 2011 at 10:58 AM | Unregistered CommenterAleaJactaEst

Whoa!

I gave up on Judith Curry a while ago. I don’t know what she think’s she’s doing, but its not helping the cause

-attributed to Mike Mann

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:23 AM | Unregistered CommenterShub

BH, I think you should give some guidelines about posting extracts from that zip file... some of the UK advoidance FOI stuff looks like criminal activity...

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:29 AM | Unregistered CommenterJiminy Cricket

<4693> Crowley:

I am not convinced that the “truth” is always worth reaching if it is at the
cost of damaged personal relationships
<2967> Briffa:

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:29 AM | Unregistered CommenterTheBigYinJames

Holy!

UEA does not hold the very vast majority of mine [potentially FOIable emails]
anyway which I copied onto private storage after the completion of the IPCC
task.

-Attributed to Phil (?) Jones

Dear fellow sceptics,
There is going to be another ***tstorm. A lot of the messages show, that the scientists have exactly the same type of ideas and thoughts as 'climate sceptics'. The scientists deserve our support, they should be held up to probity no doubt, but they deserve support. They are being trapped between a bunch of unintelligent mad activists on one side, and what they perceive as a hostile bunch on the other. Those who share our ideas are our friends, whatever the case. The activists don't, but the scientists (well, at least many of them) do

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:29 AM | Unregistered CommenterShub

The Heretic was funny, well-researched and, yes, heretical, but the plot was all over the place, so I am rather surprised that it has won an award.

Juliet Stevenson was good, though, and Johnny Flynn playing an unusually thoughtful environmentalist stole the show.

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:31 AM | Unregistered CommenterNicholas Hallam

<3373> Bradley:

I’m sure you agree–the Mann/Jones GRL paper was truly pathetic and should
never have been published. I don’t want to be associated with that 2000 year
“reconstruction”.

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:32 AM | Unregistered CommenterTheBigYinJames

Another miracle for Xmas arriving a little early.
I wonder what's happening at Norfolk Police HQ today?

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:33 AM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Carter

This latest "leak" seems too good to be true. I'd like to be wrong but I think some proper scepticism should be applied before leaping to conclusions.

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:33 AM | Unregistered CommenterTS

Shub -

I think Judy Curry will be quite chuffed with that sneer from Mike Mann - whatever he means by 'cause', I don't think it's what she would want to be associated with!

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:34 AM | Unregistered CommenterAnteros

Jones:

I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI Acts. One way to cover yourself
and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the
process


Wow, just wow!!!

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:34 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhillip Bratby

BH - make some space in your diary for writing -

'...and the corruption of science part II'

Can you get it done in time for Durban? With a little divine help maybe!

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:37 AM | Unregistered CommenterAnteros

TS, agreed, but let us have our fun.

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:37 AM | Unregistered CommenterTheBigYinJames

Climategate2?

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:40 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhillip Bratby

All those inquiries? Hopefully we will all be glad they actually were as bad as they were...

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:44 AM | Unregistered CommenterJiminy Cricket

<4758> Osborn:
Because how can we be critical of Crowley for throwing out 40-years in the middle of his calibration, when we’re throwing out all post-1960 data ‘cos the MXD has a non-temperature signal in it, and also all pre-1881 or pre-1871 data ‘cos the temperature data may have a non-temperature signal in it!

<4369> Cook:
I am afraid that Mike is defending something that increasingly can not be defended. He is investing too much personal stuff in this and not letting the science move ahead.

TS may be right. Scepticism (as ZDB never misses a chance to point out) cuts both ways. Let's see how this pans out but if they are correct, those two emails are very significant.

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterMike Jackson

Our hero 'foia' made himself (or herself) known on Climate Audit at 4:09 Toronto time. I've said this already over there but the start of the README.txt:


/// FOIA 2011 — Background and Context ///

“Over 2.5 billion people live on less than $2 a day.”

“Every day nearly 16.000 children die from hunger and related causes.”

“One dollar can save a life” — the opposite must also be true.

“Poverty is a death sentence.”

“Nations must invest $37 trillion in energy technologies by 2030 to stabilize
greenhouse gas emissions at sustainable levels.”

Today’s decisions should be based on all the information we can get, not on
hiding the decline.

This archive contains some 5.000 emails picked from keyword searches. A few
remarks and redactions are marked with triple brackets.

The rest, some 220.000, are encrypted for various reasons. We are not planning
to publicly release the passphrase.

We could not read every one, but tried to cover the most relevant topics such
as…


and the timing in 2011 suggest strongly to me a motive to ‘derail Durban’, for the very best of reasons, I might add, just as FOIA in 2009 is now best seen as a opportunistic act to take the wind out of Copenhagen.

Nov 22, 2011 at 11:58 AM | Unregistered CommenterRichard Drake

Interesting thread over at Tallbloke...some more emails relased. The last one in the into is by Jones

<1577> Jones:

[FOI, temperature data]
Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we
get - and has to be well hidden. I've discussed this with the main funder (US
Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original
station data.

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM | Unregistered Commenterconfused

Mann:

"the important thing is to make sure they’re loosing the PR battle. That’s what
the site [Real Climate] is about."

Nice to have it confirmed. And that Mann's illiterate.. :-)

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames P

'foia' also posted the files at WUWT at 1.34am [Watts-time]..

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterAnteros

'foia' had to post the files at WUWT twice because Charles the Moderator was asleep. I think he might have preferred to stay up an extra hour or two......

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterAnteros

More popcorn Cap'n, I can'ae keep up

[2007] What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multidecadal natural
fluctuation? They’ll kill us probably [...]
<2267> Wilson:

"kill" not if they're upfront now, however there will at least be some difficult questions to answer!

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterFrosty

It looks like we have Climategate II on our hands.

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

The debate is getting lively over at tallbloke towers. All assistance welcome.
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/breaking-news-foia-2011-has-arrived/#comment-9470

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterRog Tallbloke

These new emails undermine the official enquiries.

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:38 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

Also posted at the Air Vent

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhillip Bratby

Well I hope Rog Tallbloke has put enough shillings in the meter for his server, remember what happened to CA's servers last time!

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterCumbrian Lad

5349

(but we shall need to identify someone specific to work on the communication to industry end) and I would be happy to approach Bob May or Ron Oxburgh, which would (all) you prefer ??


Tallbloke says "Hmmm, Looks like Ron Oxburgh might not be the ‘independent enquiry head we were led to believe"…

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhillip Bratby

@mac... they certainly do...:)

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterJiminy Cricket

Phillip: It's a exciting cycle. FOIA releases some emails, based on certain search terms (like Wigley and Mann) then the establishment arranges for some of its flunkies to run the inquiries. So FOIA searches for Oxburgh and Boulton, does a new release and on it goes.

Nov 22, 2011 at 12:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterRichard Drake

<2775> Jones:

I too don’t see why the schemes should be symmetrical. The temperature ones
certainly will not as we’re choosing the periods to show warming.

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:02 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

Is this real?

Christmas come early maybe?

I can't believe it, is it another stage production?

Then, I guess it's all make believe - down at Mike's fiction factory!

Happy days.

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterAthelstan.

Richard: Indeed, funny how the same names keep cropping up. Who believes in coincidences?

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhillip Bratby

<3655> Singer/WWF:

we as an NGO working on climate policy need such a document pretty soon for the
public and for informed decision makers in order to get a) a debate started and
b) in order to get into the media the context between climate
extremes/desasters/costs and finally the link between weather extremes and
energy

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

Just downloaded. Now up to 207. It varies but it looks like about 2 to 3 downloads per minute at the moment

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterGrantB

<2495> Humphrey/DEFRA:

I can’t overstate the HUGE amount of political interest in the project as a
message that the Government can give on climate change to help them tell their
story. They want the story to be a very strong one and don’t want to be made
to look foolish.

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

<1939> Thorne/MetO:

Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical
troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a
wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the
uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these
further if necessary [...]

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

Fascinating reading.

I predicted it about a month ago on this thread (I was out by a few days on the date).


...but I'm sure many were thinking about it being possible in the lead up to the Durban meeting.

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:09 PM | Unregistered Commenterrc

It would appear that we have a conspiracy not to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about the science of climate change, its impact and policy between climate scientists, NGOs like WWF, government agencies and possibly friendly media outlets.

This is jaw dropping.

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

Sorry, Bish - I know this is the Heretic thread (I wonder if the news will make the BBC?) but the other news is too delicious to ignore. I can register my approval succinctly, however - Deep Joy.

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames P

3791.txt

date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:49:18 -0000 (GMT)
from: “Tim Osborn”
subject: RE: FW: FOI_08-50 ; EIR_08-01
to: “Jones Philip Prof”

Hi Phil!

re. your email to Dave Palmer [which he copied in his response to you and
cc'd to me, Keith & Michael McGarvie, and which has hence already been
multiply copied within the UEA system, and therefore will probably exist
for a number of months and possibly years, and could be released under FOI
if a request is made for it during that time!]… I assume that you didn’t
delete any emails that David Holland has requested (because that would be
illegal) but that instead his request merely prompted you to do a spring
clean of various other emails that hadn’t been requested, as part of your
regular routine of deleting old emails. If that is what you meant, then
it might be a good idea to clarify your previous email to Dave Palmer, to
avoid it being misunderstood.

The way things seem to be going, I think it best if we discuss all FOI,
EIR, Data Protection requests in person wherever possible, rather than via
email. It’s such a shame that the skeptics’ vexatious use of this
legislation may prevent us from using such an efficient modern technology
as email, but it seems that if we want to have confidential discussions
then we may need to avoid it.

I shall delete this email and those related to it as part of my regular
routine of deleting old emails!

Cheers

Tim

We now have a cover up.

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

rc

You're too modest. The MO would love to be that accurate!

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames P

Looking forwards to reading Harrabin/Black/Monbiot/Revkin et al's insightful commentry on this one.

"A few old stolen emails taken out of context which do nothing to change the fundamental science"

etc etc

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM | Unregistered Commenternot banned yet

Are any of these mails dated after climategate 1?

Nov 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterTS

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