Tuesday
Nov222011
by Bishop Hill
The Heretic wins Evening Standard award
Nov 22, 2011 Climate: Sceptics
Congratulations to Richard Bean, whose climate sceptic play The Heretic has won an Evening Standard best play award. The award was given jointly to The Heretic and one of Bean's other plays, One Man Two Guv'nors.
I understand the show will transfer to the US and Australia in due course.
Reader Comments (124)
The climate change drama that, just for a real change, didn't turn into a crisis - but stayed very funny throughout. The fact that audiences will have a chance to enjoy it in the US and Oz is great news. Congratulations to Richard Bean, at every level.
Thought control!!! ;-)
Good would like to see it but way too much to get anywhere it's on ! !
hmm is that bear trying to escape? mind he is smiling so maybe not .
Sorry for OT comment, this is important:
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/breaking-news-foia-2011-has-arrived/
Any Razzies-equivalent for the National Theatre's "Greenland"?
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/
link to breaking news on new (22/11) FOIA "climategate round II" files release
Whoa!
BH, I think you should give some guidelines about posting extracts from that zip file... some of the UK advoidance FOI stuff looks like criminal activity...
<4693> Crowley:
I am not convinced that the “truth” is always worth reaching if it is at the
cost of damaged personal relationships
<2967> Briffa:
Holy!
Dear fellow sceptics,
There is going to be another ***tstorm. A lot of the messages show, that the scientists have exactly the same type of ideas and thoughts as 'climate sceptics'. The scientists deserve our support, they should be held up to probity no doubt, but they deserve support. They are being trapped between a bunch of unintelligent mad activists on one side, and what they perceive as a hostile bunch on the other. Those who share our ideas are our friends, whatever the case. The activists don't, but the scientists (well, at least many of them) do
The Heretic was funny, well-researched and, yes, heretical, but the plot was all over the place, so I am rather surprised that it has won an award.
Juliet Stevenson was good, though, and Johnny Flynn playing an unusually thoughtful environmentalist stole the show.
<3373> Bradley:
I’m sure you agree–the Mann/Jones GRL paper was truly pathetic and should
never have been published. I don’t want to be associated with that 2000 year
“reconstruction”.
Another miracle for Xmas arriving a little early.
I wonder what's happening at Norfolk Police HQ today?
This latest "leak" seems too good to be true. I'd like to be wrong but I think some proper scepticism should be applied before leaping to conclusions.
Shub -
I think Judy Curry will be quite chuffed with that sneer from Mike Mann - whatever he means by 'cause', I don't think it's what she would want to be associated with!
Wow, just wow!!!
BH - make some space in your diary for writing -
'...and the corruption of science part II'
Can you get it done in time for Durban? With a little divine help maybe!
TS, agreed, but let us have our fun.
Climategate2?
All those inquiries? Hopefully we will all be glad they actually were as bad as they were...
TS may be right. Scepticism (as ZDB never misses a chance to point out) cuts both ways. Let's see how this pans out but if they are correct, those two emails are very significant.
Our hero 'foia' made himself (or herself) known on Climate Audit at 4:09 Toronto time. I've said this already over there but the start of the README.txt:
and the timing in 2011 suggest strongly to me a motive to ‘derail Durban’, for the very best of reasons, I might add, just as FOIA in 2009 is now best seen as a opportunistic act to take the wind out of Copenhagen.
Interesting thread over at Tallbloke...some more emails relased. The last one in the into is by Jones
<1577> Jones:
[FOI, temperature data]
Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we
get - and has to be well hidden. I've discussed this with the main funder (US
Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original
station data.
Mann:
"the important thing is to make sure they’re loosing the PR battle. That’s what
the site [Real Climate] is about."
Nice to have it confirmed. And that Mann's illiterate.. :-)
'foia' also posted the files at WUWT at 1.34am [Watts-time]..
'foia' had to post the files at WUWT twice because Charles the Moderator was asleep. I think he might have preferred to stay up an extra hour or two......
More popcorn Cap'n, I can'ae keep up
[2007] What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multidecadal natural
fluctuation? They’ll kill us probably [...]
<2267> Wilson:
"kill" not if they're upfront now, however there will at least be some difficult questions to answer!
It looks like we have Climategate II on our hands.
The debate is getting lively over at tallbloke towers. All assistance welcome.
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/breaking-news-foia-2011-has-arrived/#comment-9470
These new emails undermine the official enquiries.
Also posted at the Air Vent
Well I hope Rog Tallbloke has put enough shillings in the meter for his server, remember what happened to CA's servers last time!
5349
Tallbloke says "Hmmm, Looks like Ron Oxburgh might not be the ‘independent enquiry head we were led to believe"…
@mac... they certainly do...:)
My story is up:
Climategate II: More skeletons in the closet of anthropogenic global warming
Phillip: It's a exciting cycle. FOIA releases some emails, based on certain search terms (like Wigley and Mann) then the establishment arranges for some of its flunkies to run the inquiries. So FOIA searches for Oxburgh and Boulton, does a new release and on it goes.
<2775> Jones:
I too don’t see why the schemes should be symmetrical. The temperature ones
certainly will not as we’re choosing the periods to show warming.
Is this real?
Christmas come early maybe?
I can't believe it, is it another stage production?
Then, I guess it's all make believe - down at Mike's fiction factory!
Happy days.
Richard: Indeed, funny how the same names keep cropping up. Who believes in coincidences?
<3655> Singer/WWF:
we as an NGO working on climate policy need such a document pretty soon for the
public and for informed decision makers in order to get a) a debate started and
b) in order to get into the media the context between climate
extremes/desasters/costs and finally the link between weather extremes and
energy
Just downloaded. Now up to 207. It varies but it looks like about 2 to 3 downloads per minute at the moment
<2495> Humphrey/DEFRA:
I can’t overstate the HUGE amount of political interest in the project as a
message that the Government can give on climate change to help them tell their
story. They want the story to be a very strong one and don’t want to be made
to look foolish.
<1939> Thorne/MetO:
Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical
troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a
wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the
uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these
further if necessary [...]
Fascinating reading.
I predicted it about a month ago on this thread (I was out by a few days on the date).
...but I'm sure many were thinking about it being possible in the lead up to the Durban meeting.
It would appear that we have a conspiracy not to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about the science of climate change, its impact and policy between climate scientists, NGOs like WWF, government agencies and possibly friendly media outlets.
This is jaw dropping.
Sorry, Bish - I know this is the Heretic thread (I wonder if the news will make the BBC?) but the other news is too delicious to ignore. I can register my approval succinctly, however - Deep Joy.
We now have a cover up.
rc
You're too modest. The MO would love to be that accurate!
Looking forwards to reading Harrabin/Black/Monbiot/Revkin et al's insightful commentry on this one.
"A few old stolen emails taken out of context which do nothing to change the fundamental science"
etc etc
Are any of these mails dated after climategate 1?