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Monday
May032010

QUB say "data is published"

A report in the Belfast Telegraph has Queen's University Belfast as saying they have published their tree ring data, as required by the Information Commissioner in response to Doug Keenan's request.

QUB said it has abided by the Information Commissioner’s ruling.

“The university has now published electronic data relating to its tree ring research in line with the Decision Notice issued by the Information Commissioner,” a spokeswoman said.

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Reader Comments (9)

All kudos to Doug Keenan. It's been a long weary road for him.

May 3, 2010 at 10:23 AM | Unregistered CommenterTonyN

There, that was easy. Now why couldn't they have done it years ago.

May 3, 2010 at 10:27 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhillip Bratby

It didn't take them long to publish this data when they had to, did it. Will the QUB now explain why they originally used as an excuse for not releasing this data, that it would take an unreasonably long time to extract it from floppies? The way they resorted to 'dog ate my homework' excuses, which changed over time and not even consistently, is the thing which stands out to me as particularly damaging for this institution.

May 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterDaveS

The article in the Belfast Telegraph states, correctly, that QUB “has refused to release all its findings on tree rings” [bolding added]. In reality, QUB has released only some data. The data that has been released is online at
http://chrono.qub.ac.uk/Resources/dendro_data/dendro.html

It does not specify the years in which any of the tree rings grew. It contains ring widths for only about 9000 of about 11000 tree samples. It does not specify the locations of most of the trees. In short, it is of almost no value.

My letter to QUB about this is at
http://www.informath.org/apprise/a3900/b100429.htm

The article also correctly states that QUB has until Monday night to fully comply with the ICO Decision Notice.

May 3, 2010 at 1:15 PM | Unregistered CommenterDouglas J. Keenan

Doug

Keep after them. There is no reason for them not to fully comply.

May 3, 2010 at 2:38 PM | Unregistered CommenterDon Pablo de la Sierra

Well, lets think, why would they not release all the data they have, in response to such a serious situation?

Very puzzling isn't it? After all, they do have it, they have kept proper records, they do know what trees the samples belong to. They must, mustn't they? Otherwise, what could all those studies be based on?

Enquiring minds are completely baffled by this. We really cannot think of any possible explanation. It cannot be purely personal pique. There must be some compelling reason. But what could it possibly be?

Did the dog eat it?

May 3, 2010 at 2:53 PM | Unregistered Commentermichel

Excellent questions, Michel, which only be answered by Douglas forcing them to come clean.

May 3, 2010 at 3:52 PM | Unregistered CommenterDon Pablo de la Sierra

If they don't supply the metadata then they are simply stalling for more time and have no intention of complying with the intent of the law. Maybe they think they can drag it out for a few more years. I can just imaging the internal discussions and emails about this having the ring of the UEA Climategate ones: how they can supply the data so that it is absolutely useless but pretending to comply with the letter of the law.

May 3, 2010 at 6:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterScientistForTruth

That's not data, that's an insult!

May 3, 2010 at 8:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterFijiDave

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