Tuesday
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Bishop Hill
Bishop Hill Quote of the day
Nov 30, 2010 Climate: other Quotes This appeared as a comment on the Louise Gray article in which we were told that rationing was being proposed as a solution to the world's ills. Hat tip to Messenger.
This article is the last straw. For six years I have had to bit my tongue while force-feeding this climate anthropogenic global warming nonsense into the increasingly sceptical minds of my science school learners. They all know it's a scam. I know it's a scam. They all know that we will be notionally 1010ed if we don't all toe the party line, give the "government approved" answer in the exams, fill in the approved plans, but carry on as normal. I cannot seriously go into a school next term and carry on like this.
Consequently I hereby declare that, metaphorically, the next parent, head of science, head teacher, school governor, local education authority jobsworth, central government apparatchik, or UK energy minister who tells me have to teach this climate porn to under-16s or lose my job will be kebabed on a hockey stick and fed to the polar bear packs currently massing under my window seeking warmth. And any kid who dares to submit an assignment consisting of material cut'n'pasted from these Louise Gray's WWF press releases will be spreadeagled on a stationary wind turbine in the North Sea.
I call upon all teachers to join me in this declaration, and to organise a welcome back party to all UK attendees from Cancun
Reader Comments (33)
Ah yes, backfiring propaganda, there is hope.
scam is too polite a word:
30 Nov: BBC Radio 4: Gail Champion: Fears over 'widespread' EU fraud involving the Mafia
Several bogus Italian companies have fraudulently obtained EU grants for renewable energy projects...
The Commission itself estimates that across the EU's 27 member states, in 2009 alone 1.22bn euros' worth of Structural Funds involved irregularities and fraud, which represents a 100% rise on the previous year.
On the Italian island of Sicily, one recently-defected Mafia boss revealed just how some of this money was channelled into Mafia hands.
Not wanting to be seen speaking to the BBC in public, Antonio Birrittella agreed to a meeting in a private room in a backstreet hotel in the island's capital Palermo.
"All these funds from the EU were seen as a gift to the Mafia, easy pickings, especially the development of wind farms and renewable energy," he said...
"First the Mafia had an interest in many of the companies which obtained public funds, and they owned many of the companies which won the contracts to build wind farms, and finally they claimed fake transactions and issued double payment invoices."
He says the organisation used intimidation to obtain the plots of land it needed to build the wind farms, and threatened any construction firms who refused to pay its extortion fees.
"It started with arson on their premises or building sites, burning their trucks and machinery. That was followed up with threatening phone calls. At that point they usually got what they wanted."...
Many of the wind farms have since been sold on to genuine energy companies completely unconnected to the Mafia...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11848048
Well done Bish, for posting this. I saw the comment at Louise Gray's article, my reply there is the same here.
I salute the author! How can we put the people to whom we trust the education our children in this untolerable position?
Now is not the time....
Wow!
Please, please let this go viral and be posted in every staff common room around the world.
The telling and very scary words in this heartfeft comment - "toe the party line, give the "government approved" answer in the exams"
Welcome to the world of Mr Orwell, here and now in your UK! This no longer seems to be about temperature.
bish -
extraording claims by assange/wikileaks on youtube video up on CA and JeffID
Wiki-liars
Posted by Jeff Id on November 29, 2010
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/wiki-liars/
Climate Audit:
Assange on Climategate
by Steve McIntyre
http://climateaudit.org/2010/11/30/assange-on-climategate/
the original youtube for dating purposes:
youtube: Wikileaks on "Climategate" ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W17dW_aJEwU
Absolutely fantastic to know this person found their tipping point! May there be many more.
I have a short survey currently on my blog as I reckon there are a lot of people who have to toe the line in their jobs. It asks simply, if you have doubts about the ‘orthodox view’ of climate change, how open are you about it? http://diggingintheclay.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/are-you-a-closet-skeptic/
I really can't see why the Telegraph continues to employ Louise Gray. About all her articles consist of is a light hashing about of press releases ever more desperately trying to warm a dying scare. Nothing by way of analysis or understanding is added.
I've come to the conclusion that she doesn't really exist. "Louise Gray" is just a ghost name they use and whichever junior member of staff has done something wrong, is given the job of cobbling WWF, IPPCC etc press releases into a scary, "it's worse than we thought" tale complete with pictures of steam passed off as CO2, or a dried up cracked clay bed with a single dead fish or one of the other stock pieces of photographic tosh.
I think they employ her because it would cost more to get a real journalist.
She's a software model that takes IPCC press releases as inputs.
Garbage in, garbage out as we used to say.
I'm with the original poster (and always have been). No kids in my school have ever been subjected to this nonsense. They are aware of CO2 concentrations in the Cambrian and the huge benefits of fossil fuels though.
As a parent, this teacher's tale has resonated. Any seeking to find out and/or share more are invited to participate in a blog thread that is not without complement here:
http://ccgi.newbery1.plus.com/blog/?p=340
As an ex-science graduate and engineer, I simply ask that any efforts are ruthlessly restricted to the quality of the science being taught, and to try and get back to providing our kids the objective basics up to a sensible point where they are mature enough to use such information to assess for themselves any agenda-slanted issues being put forth.
As a media professional now, and one with a major interest in environmental communications, by coincidence only yesterday I was moved to write to The Telegraph editorial to ask if they are determined to compromise any sensible discourse on climate-related issues by persisting with the quality of 'reporting' as demonstrated by Ms. Gray.
Though she is not the only inept messenger poorly serving what is, clearly, a very important message, from government to media to activism.
When talking about vast amounts of money and clearly concerning 'initiatives' to spend it - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8169039/Cancun-climate-change-summit-UN-considers-putting-mirrors-in-space.html - I take my kids lives now, and their futures very seriously.
cosmic's comment is particularly appropriate - Private Eye had a story a couple of years ago about the author names above cricket reports in the Telegraph. Many of these names are fictitious, it seems - the newspaper simply rehashes agency reports and inserts a name to suggest that one of their journalists was at the match and reported on it. This story is discussed here on Martin Moore's blog, where some commenters suggest this is a much more widespread practice.
Anyone who leaves the enquiring mind of their own child to the exposure of state propoganda on these issues has only him/herself to blame. I talk to my kids about it. They know about climategate, the IPCC, Lindzen, McIntyre, Mann, Huhne, Ed Balls, Al Gore, etc. I am happy to say that they have as young adults now developed a healthy cynicism about believing what they are told by the "establishment". After all, it will probably be their generation that has to revolt to end the madness.
Ms Gray is surely writing for the Daily Mash too?
Options include putting mirrors in space to reflect sunlight or covering Greenland in a massive blanket so it does not melt.
link
Could not agree more with "rb" who says:-
"Anyone who leaves the enquiring mind of their own child to the exposure of state propaganda on these issues has only him/herself to blame. I talk to my kids about it. They know about climategate, the IPCC, Lindzen, McIntyre, Mann, Huhne, Ed Balls, Al Gore, etc. I am happy to say that they have as young adults now developed a healthy cynicism about believing what they are told by the "establishment". After all, it will probably be their generation that has to revolt to end the madness.
Dec 1, 2010 at 8:28 AM | rb "
And from what happened here in this household I would say that the next generation is going to far more cynical of the hype. My sons are aware of both sides of the argument and are sceptical of the spin and dodgy dossiers. My eldest sons partner completed a her architecture first degree recently and was appalled at how one lecturer in particular insisted that all "projects" be written as if AGW was an absolute fact and that capitalism was to blame.
If you dared to put another view across - you failed - simple as that.
So what happened was they all paid lip-service to this requirement to get their degree - BUT - the effect such unfairness has had on their beliefs has had totally the opposite outcome to what this idiot lecturer probably thinks he is achieving.
Not surprising then that those who genuinely have the best interests of our kids education are reacting against the hype and spin and dodgy dossiers. It is a form of indoctrination and as such it will never succeed.
Yipee!
From my own experience: -
1. Teachers are beginning to coach children on this rather than just spout the propaganda. "What is the most common gas in the atmosphere?", "CO2, it is a toxic gas Miss". "What does toxic mean?". ...."So CO2 is NOT toxic then?". etc.
2. Head of sixth form "I can't get teachers to teach this c**p!".
And I thought I was a loan voice, crying in the wilderness.
The more I reflect on the AGW saga, the more I realise that it was always about politics rather than science. As an engineer my instinct has been to clarify the facts; to subject them to a degree of 'quality assurance'; to insist on pass/fail criteria for the AGW theory; to sit back in anticipation that this great quandary would shortly be resolved. My naive assumption was that we're all interested in getting to the truth of the matter. In politics there's no such thing as a universal truth.
With Orwellian skill, the global warming industry is managing to survive, even thrive. Their fundraising capability is breathtaking. How do they tap into the public purse so effortlessly? (By 'they', I mean organizations like Eco-Schools, 10:10, 350.org, Greenpeace, and many many more outfits with media-savvy secretariats, slick websites, full-time fundraising executives.) Where did these people learn their trade? Don't they have proper jobs? Are they the toxic by-product of the quango industry, or of bloated academia, or of the charity sector?
More importantly, who will challenge them in the corridors of power? Even if we had organizations to oppose theirs, normal people lack the monomaniacal intensity to "get involved". How come we don't have big names like Al Gore, Rajendra Pachauri, Richard Branson, making keynote speeches and issuing quotable quotes about the heinous multi-billion pound scam being perpetrated on us?
Is there ANY prospect of a political opposition to the AGW movement, or will this obscene fraud run for decades to come? In Saddam's Iraq, the wicked Ba'ath party made sure that all key figures were in-and-implicated, hence its longevity; might the same principle keep the AGW gravy train on the rails?
Bishop, Poem by Sal Minella, taken from the comments on Louise Gray's article you refer to.
I hope it is ok to post this here.
It covers a number of the "SCARES WHICH NEVER EVENTUATED"
Peter Walsh
read on..............
A refinement
by Sal Minella 30 Nov 2010
What Trembling Fools They Are
A silent spring, I’ve never heard,
DDT didn’t kill my bird.
The population bomb has proved a dud,
It’s just not so, my favorites bud.
Where’s the cloud of killer bees,
The forest with depleted trees?
Skies were blue - they still are,
Peak oil - I use it in my car.
Polar icecaps just won’t melt,
That’s a lie that Al Gore dealt.
My skivvies in disarray,
As I’m fingered by mo-TSA.
As a child beneath my desk,
Escaping that Atomic death,
A white-hot flash that never came,
I’m pining for that cleansing flame.
For fear of something real,
Not just a panic-driven zeal,
Oh, what trembling fools they are,
Who sold my freedoms for a law.
Posted on The Telegraph comments area in this article dated 29 Nov 2010
Cancun climate change summit: scientists call for rationing in developed world
"a welcome back party to all UK attendees from Cancun"
After the 'send money or the polar bear gets it' type of racket we are about to move to the protection racket courtesy of Cancun;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/8171383/Gazprom-and-Vitol-to-start-trading-rainforest.html
Teachers don't have to be scientifically literate to spot this one. I mention it here in the hope that they do. Greenthink needs to be examined critically, not taught unconditionally.
I managed to track the comment down. It’s by suffolkboy 11/30/2010 08:43 AM, p21 of comments in descending order, currently p6 in ascending order. Why not get over there and give the fellow a pat on the back?
Interesting you should say that, cosmic. The following link thinks she does but has no recorded information about her at all!
http://journalisted.com/louise-gray#tab-links
rb -- fine! Trouble is that the less well-instructed are going to disbelieve everything the establishment tells them and that is just as dangerous. We are starting to see that in blog comments even on a site like the DT which one would assume attracts a marginally better informed readership than the average (or maybe I'm out of date!)
And there you have it! One reply. Support zero. No wonder we are treated like cattle.
"Trouble is that the less well-instructed are going to disbelieve everything the establishment tells them and that is just as dangerous. We are starting to see that in blog comments even on a site like the DT which one would assume attracts a marginally better informed readership than the average (or maybe I'm out of date!)"
Dec 1, 2010 at 11:14 AM | Unregistered CommenterSam the Skeptic
I couldn't agree more.
I fear the backlash will cause environmental cynicism, to the point where all environmental groups are maligned. The end result will be far more environmental degradation than would otherwise have been the case, if the CAGW tree ring circus crowd had been subject to proper scientific review in the first place. And no opposition to it, as no environmental group will have credibility.
I've tried to have this 'careful what you wish for' conversation with activists, but they are always so right, they can't see how wrong they are.
What on earth is Burberry handbags about? Is it some sort of recognition that people that visit Bishop Hill are more likely to buy designer labels than the delegates at Cancun? I'm not sure about that. Although, if Louise Gray starts to ration Burberry handbags, I promise to go out and by one.
"She's a software model that takes IPCC press releases as inputs.
Garbage in, garbage out as we used to say."
Garbage In, Graybage Out
I concur totally with the sentiment. During the latter years of my long career as a head of geography I became totally disillussioned with the nonsense that I was supposed to teach and examine. The students, staff members ( apart from the young and ambitious) privately shared the doubts, especially mathematics teachers who understood that you cannot predict a chaotic system. It came to a head when I ignored an opportunity to take a group of children to see "An Inconvenient Truth", and was promptly sent a copy of this eco-nonsense by courier directly to my classroom. Unfortunately, following a very nasty accident I have had to finish teaching. However, I do not miss the climate change elements of the course which had morphed over the past decade from geography to environmnetally inaccurate propaganda. The Green lobby which has invaded so many of our national institutions are in my eyes nothing less than rather dangerous totalitarian fascists.
@JohnOf Enfield
I am a bit rusty, I left school a long time ago but isn't nitrogen the most common gas in the atmosphere? CO2 is a trace gas. Theoretically, adding a huge amount of this trace gas to the atmosphere could cause some kind of imbalance that could affect the climate. However the Earth's climate is hugely complex and I would suggest that it is impossible to predict what this effect would be or even if there would be an effect at all. Attempts at making such predictions ten years ago seem to have failed rather spectacularly.
@andyscrace.
I read about that mirrors in space story and thought 'Oh FFS'. Later I noticed the Daily Mash reference an thought 'silly bugger Stony, it's a spoof'. Then I followed the link and I have to say that I am effing speechless. Still, the comment thread is encouraging, the only dissenter is someone who thinks that quoting the Old Testament brings something to the discussion.
I have to say that I am delighted to know that teachers are rebelling against the AGW propaganda.
I wonder what proportion feel that way?
I too wonder what that proportion is. This sort of rebellion by teachers, and by pupils, is encouraging. Relentless propaganda based on flaky computer models is not good for the spirit, nor the soul, nor the patience of anyone who chooses to think about things.
trefor
hear what you are saying & agree (sorry about your health problems).
but, as head are you saying somebody else (agenda driven) dictated your teaching & those under you?
Is she the silly bint who did the press review on Sky News tonight...wondering why the price of heating etc has increased just when people need it most.