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Mann interview at

There is a very interesting article at, featuring Michael Mann and Doug Nychka among others. Nychka is a statistician who is closely connected with the Hockey Team and was a member of the NAS panel that investigated the Hockey Stick.

Choice quote:

Nychka, who works for the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., said the [Hockey Stick] became so controversial because it was misinterpreted as proof that humans cause global warming.

This misinterpretation was of course due to, among others, IPCC WG1 head, Sir John Houghton.


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HOHOHOHOHOH - excellent spot Sir.

Jan 9, 2010 at 1:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterPlatoSays

Also notice on this page:

Mann references the 52 / 62 H-Index claims wrt Phil Jones' fellowship proposal, and the interviewer claims to have seen a letter showing that the value 52 was actually used, the 62 being a typo in the email.

Although *we* have no independent corroboration of this, it may be worth passing on to Steve Mc. if you have his ear.

That said, only confirmation from the body involved or other authentic paperwork could put the matter to bed.

Jan 9, 2010 at 2:53 PM | Unregistered CommenterSean Inglis

Ya, and that feature centerfold in the SPM didn't clear up any confusion either.

Mann is turning pathetic in his attempts to jump through the huge gaps in his integrity, honesty and credibility.

Truly pathetic.

Jan 9, 2010 at 3:02 PM | Unregistered CommenterFred from Canuckistan

Really a pathetic example of one-sided journalism. Mann is allowed every "out". He is asked to explain the "trick", but not the phrase "hide the decline". He is allowed to explain the h-index fraud as a "typo", and the rest of the content of that e-mail is ignored. Then there's this:

Mann points out that the hockey stick is not widely seen as a smoking gun implicating human activity in global warming. And it was not the giant graph used in Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth.

Yes it was, only Gore erroneously called it "Dr. Thompsons thermometer".

Jan 9, 2010 at 3:34 PM | Unregistered Commenternanny_govt_sucks

John Houghton is away with the Pharoahs:

A new JRI briefing paper by Sir John Houghton links the biblical story of Joseph in Egypt and modern issues surrounding climate change. You can download Joseph, Pharaoh, and a Climate Crisis at the above link.

"So Joseph stood before Pharaoh who recounted his dreams of cows and ears of corn. After explaining that he could only provide the interpretation God gave to him, Joseph told Pharaoh the meaning of his dreams. Both parts of the dream had the same meaning; they reinforced each other because the message was important. The next seven years, Joseph said, would be years of plenty with very good harvests. After that would follow seven years of famine with very poor harvests. Joseph was, in fact, passing on a climate forecast for Egypt and the surrounding region for the next fourteen years."

He told Pharaoh that’s the forecast demanded immediate action – no time must be lost. (Nothing changed there then.... )

"What is the particular message of the story to us today? We face a climate crisis of enormous magnitude and proportions, not local but global, not of 7 years duration but lasting indefinitely.

Information about it has not come through dreams but through science. Many hundreds of scientists representing the world scientific community have got together, through the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to provide the necessary climate forecast and to propose to governments what needs to be done."

Those of us in rich countries need to be reminded that, over 200 years since the industrial revolution, we have grown rich through cheap energy from the burning of fossil fuels. We have not realised its effect on the world’s climate nor that the damage falls disproportionately on the world’s poorest.

There is therefore an inescapable moral imperative for rich countries to avoid further damage by rapidly reducing their carbon emissions and to share their wealth and skills with developing countries to enable them to build their economies sustainably.

For Christians this imperative comes over with particular potency. We live in times when we are raping the Earth and exploiting the poor."

He finishes with this headline block

Pharoah and Joseph had
So have we

God save us from religion.

Jan 9, 2010 at 4:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterDennisA

No hockey stick means no calamity.
No calamity means this entire ~10 year excursion in fear mongering has been an utter waste of time and money.

Jan 9, 2010 at 5:23 PM | Unregistered Commenterhunter

Nychka, ..said the [Hockey Stick] .. was misinterpreted as proof that humans cause global warming.

The "misrepresentation" was just a clever trick, used by the IPCC. And boy did the public swallow it.

And the hockey stick was such a clever trick also. Amazingly clever, would have made any conjurer proud. We tested it out on several telephone books, just to make sure, before feeding in the tree data.

Mind you when that non-academic McIntyre caught us out, we quickly produced two other hockey sticks as independent corroboration. Though we did have to remove a few inconvenient few trees, in the case of Briffa.

But things like that you know must be, with every famous victory.

Jan 9, 2010 at 7:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterRichard

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