Monday
Jan042010
by Bishop Hill
Pachauri protests his innocence
Jan 4, 2010 Climate: Pachauri
Over at Comment is Free. I think that critical comments may may be severely curtailed. I've posted a simple link to EUReferendum's Pachauri category. It will be interesting to see if it gets through.
[Update: Currently no comments seem to be getting through at all. This is turning into a habit on global warming threads at CiF]
Reader Comments (19)
I love commenters over at CiF
'It's past time to be pussyfooting around these malevolent and selfish idiots. Climate sceptics, at least those driving and underwriting their denialist activities, should be treated like the war criminals time will prove them to be.'
Neither an uncommon or particularly well-hidden viewpoint. Scary.
There are quite a lot of anti Pachauri comments there.....
Mine aren't among them.
Hi Bish !
I've got a bottle of CiF under the kitchen sink...
Also over at The Guardian, another post-CRU Monbiot piece.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/04/standard-of-living-spending-consumerism
Is it my imagination or has he seriously stepped back from banging on about "The Science"? His recent articles are more about what he was really interested in in the first place, a massive reduction in consumerism, by any means necessary.
Of course he can't easily, and may never, admit that he helped drive the AGW bandwagon largely because it was a convenient excuse for the draconian measures necessary to drive down consumerism in the short term, but he is certainly not using "The Science" as a blunt instrument with the brio he once did.
You can see which comments are being recommended; at the moment these definitely appear to be ones critical of Pachauri. I like bobdoney's comment - and the link! :-D
bobdoney has been removed.......
Thanks for the pointer, yer Grace. I wonder if anyone has bobdoney's deleted post?
As for some of the posters, who obviously have been into the AGW Koolaid too much, they are a bit scary, aren't they?
However, the real issue is the hearts and minds of the average punter. Listings like that in CIF help the average punter see that there is more to it than the Koolaid drinkers would have you believe.
I came across a new word (for me) today, which many of you may already know. It's "fanbois". It is Geek (not Greek) and a corruption of "fan boys", those geeks so tied heart and soul to a particular product that they can't possibly see anything whatsoever wrong with it, even though it is an obvious pile of crap.
So I propose we start referring to those who call us "deniers" as "fanbois" It's a sorta derogatory expression, but not dirty -- at least yet.
Looks like chris is going to personally give Pachauri some much needed attention.
http://faustiesblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/climategate-lord-monckton-on-alex-jones.html
Note to Pachauri - "When in a hole, stop digging."
Unfortunately I didn't copy and save bobdoney's comment (although should have done, knowing the Graun censors' little ways), to paraphrase, it was something like "Follow the link to give your support to Pachauri", and the link I'm sure was to the Pachauri thread on Umbrella Blog:
http://umbrellog.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1008123&start=0
The "war criminals" comment by Calidris is still there, of course.
Pachauri will turn out to be the Richard Nixon of Climategate....
Has anyone heard any more about the IPCC investigation that Pachauri anounced (in a BBC interview) soon after Climategate hit the headlines?
I did hear that they'd decided not to have it. I keep meaning to post something on this.
Some pungent words against enviro-liars from Malaysia: <http://tinyurl.com/ybl8c9s> –
and support for ‘doomslayers’(!).
I notice there is another CiF article parroting exactly the same line as this Pachauri one
"Climate change scepticism will increase hardship for world's poor: IPCC chief"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/04/ipcc-climate-sceptics-rajendra-pachauri
"the allegations made on the basis of the stolen emails have proved incorrect"
The investigation by the University of East Anglia and Pennsylvania State University are still ongoing, so Pachauri's claim is premature.
Pachauri announced an investigation by the IPCC in early December: http://www.examiner.com/x-28973-Essex-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m12d4-UN-IPCC-to-investigate-CRU
I'd be interested to see any evidence that this indeed has been called off.
Pachauri is a thief of public funds and trust on a scale seldom seen outside of third world kleptocracies.
His protestations of innocence are simply his demands that we ignore the evidence and listen only to him.
He is, in other words, a perfect UN leader.
I was a regular poster in Guardian blogs but now it seems my sceptical views of AGW and Mr Pachauri contravene that publication's sense of that which is proper as my last effort has been deleted by the moderator.
I expressed my dismay that the newspaper would give space for a serial con-man to justify himself. No-one countered my statement, and it was up for a couple of days at least. So much for the CIF motto - 'The Truth Is Sacred'.