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Zorita wants Mann, Jones and Rahmstorf banned

Another climatologist has called for prominent colleagues to be banned from the IPCC process. Eduardo Zorita, who appears to have been another victim of the Hockey Team's machinations, has made a statement on his website. Why does he want them banned?

..because the scientific assessments in which they may take part are not credible anymore



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A very reasoned, reasonable and balanced appraisal.

Nov 27, 2009 at 4:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Smith

I can`t for the life of me figure how mann actually had the cheek to publish another paper on his bullshit data, nor why none of the so called scientists have not been arrested and prosecuted.

Nov 27, 2009 at 4:32 PM | Unregistered CommenterMark

By writing these lines I will just probably achieve that a few of my future studies will, again, not see the light of publication.
In this atmosphere, Ph D students are often tempted to tweak their data so as to fit the 'politically correct picture'. Some, or many issues, about climate change are still not well known. Policy makers should be aware of the attempts to hide these uncertainties under a unified picture. I had the 'pleasure' to experience all this in my area of research.

Thank you for your courage.

Nov 27, 2009 at 4:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterSkeptic Tank

We're all looking at this - and are outraged - on the basis of traditional, normal science. But some science (especially climate science) has been hijacked by a new definition of science, 'post-normal' science. If we don't understand this, we will never understand what has been motivating these guys. I was astonished when I researched this. It's a neo-Marxist attempt to redefine the role of science. I compiled a post about this that you might find illuminating - especially as it quotes extensively from Mike Hulme, Professor of Climate Change in the School of Environmental Sciences at UEA, in Norwich, UK, and contributor to the IPCC, also involved in the CRU emails. Hulme clearly defines climate science and the IPCC as 'post-normal', and so not subject to truth claims in the normal way.

Nov 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterScientistForTruth

Hulme is pretty heavily implicated in the emails.

Nov 27, 2009 at 6:08 PM | Registered CommenterBishop Hill

"Bullshit data" - if you make it up, it isn't data. Data is what we measure; the rest: opinion. It's a sad indictment of modern science that models seem to trump observed fact.

Nov 27, 2009 at 7:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterSebastian Weetabix

I would propose to include Schellnhuber, also PIK!

Nov 27, 2009 at 9:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterJean Bosseler

Most certainly Schellnhuber, and his Greenpeace scientists, Bill Hare and Malte Meinshausen. For more detail on these two, check here: The Greenpeace Institute for Climate Change at Potsdam, Bill Hare has been on the advisory board at Tyndall since it started in 2000 and was Greenpeace Climate Campaign Director from 1998 until recently. He has been embedded at PIK since 2002 and is an IPCC Lead Author and SPM author.

Nov 29, 2009 at 1:10 AM | Unregistered CommenterDennisA

I thought that banning people was one of the crimes committed only by Phil Jones.

Dec 21, 2009 at 9:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn McManus

Ok the, how about SUSPEND...PERMANENTLY!

Dec 28, 2009 at 2:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterRETEPHSLAW

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