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Over at the Torygraph Ambrose Evan Pritchard has gobbed the green blob and is citing the nonsense about fossil fuels enjoy subsidies worth 6.5% of global GDP. I can't give you the URL because I've used up my DT article allowance but Richard Drake kindly sent me the article, and it's up to Ambrose's standard of impressive command of the (official) facts.
Please get over to the DT and knock some sense into the discussion.

May 27, 2015 at 11:11 PM | Registered Commentergeoffchambers

The BBC have changed it to 50 megawatts now.

May 27, 2015 at 10:38 PM | Registered Commenterlapogus

Phillip - the 50 milliwatts error is astonishing, even for scientifically illiterate BBC journalists. The bias towards windfarms in the report is sadly to be expected.

May 27, 2015 at 10:06 PM | Registered Commenterlapogus

If anyone was under the illusion or misapprehension that the Beeb knew what it was talking about, read the second para of this.

If anyone was under the illusion or misapprehension that the Beeb was not biased in favour of the GreenBlob, read the last four paragraphs and see who get the last words on the subject. Did you spot a quote from anybody who is against wind energy to balance the opinions of the two who are pro-wind?

May 27, 2015 at 9:39 PM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

Robin Guernier:

Old Sparky has a piece about Amber Rudd in the current Private Eye
I bet 'Old Sparky' and Hislop have some very interesting conversations....

And, re the Guardian piece on India (David Rose, no less!): It really is all about India setting up a negotiation position so that they can suck up all those lovely billions in compensation from the industrial 1st world. After all, AGW wasn't their fault (They say - but was it anyone's?) - and I bet they really notice the 0.8 deg change in their climate.

May 27, 2015 at 7:15 PM | Registered CommenterHarry Passfield

Thanks, Phillip. The devil is in the detail, as ever, although I do wonder if they've thought what a 'wind energy generator' might actually be - or is their real purpose to create wind..?

May 27, 2015 at 7:03 PM | Registered Commenterjamesp

The Guardian (amazingly) has published today an important article by David Rose. Entitled Why India is captured by carbon, it illustrates precisely why - despite all the scaremongering and false optimism - the UN's 'make or break' conference in Paris this year will fail to have any serious impact on global GHG emissions. It's full of interesting material. For example:

To many western environmentalists, who are determined to see a binding global deal to reduce greenhouse gas emissions at the UN climate change conference in Paris later this year, India’s rising coal use is anathema. However, across a broad range of Delhi politicians and policymakers there is near unanimity. There is, they say, simply no possibility that at this stage in its development India will agree to any form of emissions cap, let alone a cut.
Prakash Javadekar, the cabinet minister responsible for the environment, forests and climate change, enlarged on this in blunt terms: “Our emissions will grow because we are not developed and we have a right, every person on this Earth has a right, to develop. If today the world is 0.8C warmer [than it was in pre-industrial times], it is not my fault. It is the historical responsibility of those who started emitting with the industrial revolution.”
[My emphases]

And there are some interesting comments. This (from Mike Muller) for example:

If only well-intentioned but misguided environmental activists had not campaigned so strongly against nuclear and hydropower, India would not have been caught in this deep coal trap.

And it would be helpful if the greens stopped pretending that solar and wind can fill the gap. Intermittent solar and wind need hydropower (or lots of gas) to balance it. So can they please stop and think before they do any more damage.

All this stuff must be rather alarming for many Guardian readers.

May 27, 2015 at 6:44 PM | Registered CommenterRobin Guenier

Robin Guenier on May 27, 2015 at 2:17 PM

The full quote is:
"CCS is like the Loch Ness monster: everyone can describe it, some people believe in it, but it doesn't exist, except in Scotland."

May 27, 2015 at 2:50 PM | Registered CommenterRobert Christopher


For no good reason, I was watching an old Scooby Doo episode yesterday which had a mechanical Loch Ness Monster which was summoned by the villain playing bagpipes. It also got me to thinking about other modern equivalents that people have been conned into believing in. Bizarre.

May 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM | Unregistered Commentermichael hart

jamesp: The problem is there is no definition of a 'wind farm', because policy is written in terms of 'wind energy generators'. So a 'wind farm' could mean a single turbine or multiple turbines, but nobody (well no member of the public) knows. The Government refuses to say what it means by a 'wind farm'.

May 27, 2015 at 5:33 PM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

H/T Climate Depot for the witch hunt story:

Environmentalists fail in bid to revoke GOP senator’s degree
"A Washington state senator has survived a campaign by Western Washington University students who demanded their school revoke his master’s degree because he’s not radical enough on global warming."
http://watchdog.org/220270/evironmentalists/

May 27, 2015 at 5:13 PM | Registered CommenterRobert Christopher

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