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Re: Law & Deniers....
It always depends on the judge! :-)
I laughed ... his removal looks a bit off ....
tomo
@clipe
That Ezra Levant prosecution for being "discourteous" to a bunch of venal bureaucrats... wow... the return of seditious libel !
Given that Leigh Day (of Balcombe pro-bono infamy) have a Twitter promotion running to harvest eco protestors I think it only a matter of time before some "denier" gets slapped with a suit in the UK.
tomo
Yesterday on BBC Radio 4's Inside Science, there was an item on Arctic sea ice increasing by 41% in 2013 (h/t CS Carnaghan) and I've transcribed it here:
https://sites.google.com/site/mytranscriptbox/2015/20150723_is
Adam Rutherford: And how does that number and the sea-ice volume that you've just published - how does that relate to the overall global trends about global warming and climate change?Rachel Tilling: It's quite hard to say specifically how that relates to the whole of the global climate, just from these five years of observational data. But what we would hope is we can use these measurements now, of sea-ice thickness and volume, in the models that do predict future climate change, and hopefully improve those.
Adam Rutherford: But those images of the Arctic sea-ice shrinking over the last few decades are pretty iconic. They're iconic in our understanding of how the planet is getting warmer, and given that how controversial this is outside of science - there's a ridiculously high consensus within science that it's a real phenomenon, but - you can see how this is going to be interpreted. You know, with 30 years of Arctic sea-ice shrinking and then suddenly it gets bigger, you're still okay with climate change being a real thing, and global warming being a real thing?
Rachel Tilling: Yeah, and that's something we were quite concerned about, when we released the paper, was that these results might be misinterpreted. That's absolutely something that we're not suggesting - we're not suggesting that this is a reversal at all of a long-term decline. We've been very careful, throughout the paper, not to use this term "reversal" or not to use the term "recovery", because it's not a recovery, in any sense, it's just an anomalous year, it's natural variability. And if you look at the long-term trend in volume in the Arctic, it is downwards, and we've got no reason to believe that that won't continue.
So they've been measuring Arctic sea-ice volume with CryoSat-2 for 5 years. Over that time, it went down by 14%, but then suddenly went up by 41%. Just a slight blip... :-)
Alex Cull
Amber Rudd's speech on climate change is here.
Phillip Bratby
I'm just looking at the John Cook thing , but got to go
It seems that its from 2011 "experiment they ran" and dertailed in the secret area of SkS which "someone later found"
I think PaulM has found other occurances
stewgreen
@stew - thanks for looking at local PA instances. The PA *wire* (rather than locally bylined) enviro/eco stories I looked at in the Wiltshire Times are now mostly closed comments.
The closed comments tactic has historically been deployed for legal stories to avoid exposure to the legal system...
So at the moment it looks like the shuttered comments decision is a regional one - unsurprising given the gushing coverage the likes of CFB and the ant-frackers attract in local Newsquest titles
I put it down to the Catherine Porter "effect" - a form of behaviour I've had cause to challenge in local titles 'pon occasion :-)
Newsquest / PA not guilty yet - but also not acquitted either.
tomo
Jul 24, 2015 at 6:01 AM stewgreen
How did PA come up with this headline? "Record 22.3% of electricity generated by renewables in first three months:"
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They got it from here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/electricity-section-5-energy-trends
Document: "Fuel used in electricity generation and electricity supplied (ET 5.1)"
Shares of generation in the first quarter of 2015 compared with a year earlier:
Coal 31.3% (down 6pp), gas 25.0% (up 2pp), nuclear 19.1% (up 2pp), renewables (wind, hydro & bioenergy) 22.3% (up 3pp). Overall low carbon generation was 41.4%.
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Brownedoff
With regard to the speech that Amber Rudd will give to the city today, Radio 4 news stated that she will 'insist' the UK Government is committed to tackling global warming. Who did the BBC go to for an independent view? FoE of course.
See Energy Secretary Amber Rudd criticised ahead of climate speech. Harrabin goes to both FoE and Greenpeace for the independent view.
Phillip Bratby
news Green deal scrapped -Well yes it had become corrupt as contractors jacked up prices as consumers weren't paying the gov was
Amber Rudd will make Climate Change speech today in The City
@Tomo if comments are closed you can use Twitter to the newspaper hashtag it #Newsquest (list of 100 titles)
Emily Beament @paenvironment "UK Press Association environment correspondent.. All views my own"
is a Paris greendogma evangelist. She tweeted 3 times about the solar 16% peak on July 3rd.
- Googling in News: Newsquest solar : doesn't actually show much evangelism
same using renewables as a search term
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I'm don't find the closed comments you mentioned. I was going to say that you were wrong and I can see signs of balance e.g. the Northern Echo has 3 solar stories today BUT the one on google named "Cutting solar energy subsidies 'will reduce household bills'* "actually takes you to new headline "Plan to stop solar subsidies 'absolutely nonsensical'(o)
- They have a 3rd headline which does goes to a separate article : Tories the greenest government ever, insists PM(o)
* BTW The Mail actually does use that first headline (n)
- How did PA come up with this headline ? "Record 22.3% of electricity generated by renewables in first three months:" burning rubbish/biogas might be 12% but did wind really average 10% ?
@Clipe's story is about Ezra who is being prosecuted for speaking AGAIN
- first time was in 2005 when in a magazine in a news story about the Mhd cartoons controversy he published the cartoons to explain story - case eventually dropped, by govt leaving him out of pocket for $100K defence spending
- Now a malicious lawyer has found a way to prosecute him. Ezra is a member of the bar so is being prosecuted for insulting the bar association under their own rules...Yes it should be free speech.
stewgreen
The BBC is re-running some of the Yes Minister series. This one provides a great spoof on how scientific studies can be manipulated by public scaremongering and political cowardess. Rings some shale gas bells.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odmHPyXlJ6w