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AK
I made no assumption about the efficiency of conversion of energy into heating and melting ice. Just calculated the energy involved in the rockfall, and how much heating and melting that could in theory do. So it is a maximum case, no more. You did ask for some numbers.
There seems to have been no discussion of the onward progression of events from the rockfall down to 3800m and the torrent another 1800m lower down that destroyed the dams.
Meanwhile the icebergs continue to menace South Georgia
https://go.nasa.gov/3jOP9r7
It doesn't add up...
I cannot remember now where I read this - I think in the International Journal of Geology.
Despite the many arrogant excesses of the Raj in India, some of the officers were sensible enough about aspects of the geography. A persistent routine of accurate mapping of the many glaciers on India's northern border was instigated, as it was obvious that seasonal water flows amongst other events were critical.
Mapping over a reasonable time period showed a constant ebb and flow of glacial advance/retreat, with individual sites actually out of synchronicity with each other..
Recently, I heard a well-known "climate scientist" being interviewed by a left-wing sympathiser. (The term "climate scientist" is in quotes as useful climate analyses require many cross-disciplines). He was pushing global glacial retreat as evidence of catastrophic warming. The interviewer inadvertently noted the glacial exposures on the NZ South Island (quite a few of which are advancing). The interviewee did a double-take and then proclaimed: "They're different". Different how - not asked or answered.
ianl
With reference to the recent cold waves (or Winter as it could be called), I put this on WUWT. And I would like to repeat I here as I am proud of the fact that it had no typos. Plus it clearly expresses my current thinking about the whole AGW policy debate.
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It’s got nothing to do with climate. It is weather.
But this demonstrates that the weather varies by something like 30°C year on year, everywhere.
While the worst case for AGW climate change is 3°C in 100 years.
We need to adapt to the weather regardless of what resources we use up while trying to control the climate. And as changes in the weather are 10 times as large and 100 times as fast, we don’t need to worry about climate change. We won’t notice the cost of adaptation as we cope with real emergencies every year.
That’s why weather events that clearly prove that AGW is a very small issue should be highlighted.
They helps us prioritise our resources appropriately.
M Courtney
AK
>" ... work out how climate change is insinuated into the message" [Indian flood disaster]
It doesn't have to make sense. The propagandists have all they need - an enthusiastically biased MSM.
ianl
At 17.55 today:
Can the internet ever be green?
Data is driving a new industrial revolution globally, and it is growing exponentially. But what damage is it doing to the climate?
Mark Hodgson
Martyn / AK
be appreciated if y'all could sprinkle a few links about the Indian floods?
I found a Sky piece:
- https://news.sky.com/story/uttarakhand-dam-disaster-what-caused-indias-deadly-flood-12214731
duh, and idau quotes it... off screen here....
tomo
More global warming:
US cold snap: Why is Texas seeing Arctic temperatures?
Texas is known for its sprawling deserts and excruciating heatwaves - but right now, it's blanketed in a thick layer of ice.The state is seeing some of its coldest temperatures in more than 30 years, with some areas breaking records that are more than a century old.
Parts of Texas hit 0F (-18C) on Sunday, and weather warnings are going to stay in place through the week.
So why is this normally boiling state suddenly freezing over?
According to the US National Weather Service (NWS), this is down to an "Arctic outbreak" that originated just above the US-Canada border.
Cold air outbreaks such as these are normally kept in the Arctic by a series of low-pressure systems, the NWS said. However this one moved through Canada and spilled out into the US last week.
The weather has already proven deadly. On Thursday, icy roads led to a massive crash involving more than 100 vehicles in Fort Worth, Texas, killing six people and leaving dozens more needing hospital treatment.
"The expansive dome of subfreezing temperatures across the northern tier of the country has laid the foundation for winter storms to wreak havoc from coast-to-coast, not only going into this weekend, but also into next week," the NWS said in a statement released on Friday.
Weather warnings for severe winter conditions are going to remain in place until at least Tuesday, when the weather system will begin to move north.
Marc Chenard, a forecaster from the service's Weather Prediction Centre, told Reuters that Amarillo in Texas will only see a high temperature of 2F (-17C), breaking the city's previous record of 12F (-11C) that was set in 1895.
Similarly Lubbock, Texas, will only reach a high of 9F (-13C). These temperatures, Mr Chenard said, are "40 to 50 degrees [Fahrenheit] below average".
Parts of Oklahoma and the Texas Panhandle are predicted to see as much as a foot of snow this week, while Dallas will have four inches.
Mr Chenard warns of more dangerous road conditions in Houston, caused by sleet and freezing rain.
Mark Hodgson
Idau. What efficiency for energy transfer (kinetic to specific heat) are you suggesting? I would suspect it might be very low.
AK
Martyn. Look carefully at the video where the torrent sweeps aside the smaller dam. Do you see any ice blocks? I don’t. Watch the standing waves. See any ice?
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AK
M Courtney, beware awakening Muphry's Law:
Perhaps not a typo. Maybe you were wanting to project your inner Gollum.