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golf charlie / Ross Lea
I've mentioned it before but Limoges still has trolley buses and Poitiers has LPG powered buses. In both cities you can sit outside cafes and restaurants without being enveloped in diesel exhaust every time a bus goes by.
I can remember trams in Glasgow when I visited my Grandmother in the late 1950s early 1960s. I think the tram lines where she lived, Govan, were used to move railway wagons used in shipyards (unless my father was being less than factual) I have visions of Thomas The Tank Engine in Glasgow Corporation livery.
SandyS
stewgreen, range anxiety is the problem for battery cars. Ironically, the Battle of Trafalgar (1805) resulted from the Royal Navy being at sea, crossing the Atlantic, blockading the French and Spanish etc. Apart from food and provisions, they were at sea, on duty, on patrol, in active pursuit for months, a year?
Range anxiety amongst many senior Admirals forced them to question the concept of switching to steam power. The first metal ship, with steampower was HMS Warrior (1860) restored and back afloat in Portsmouth Harbour. She had a full sailing rig. Until the Royal Navy had coal stores around the world, they did not stop depending on sails. The Falkland Islands were vital for ships travelling to and from the Pacific via Cape Horn.
Times have changed, but anxieties haven't!
golf charlie
Post-Truth a new video by pro Remain lobby group Open Britain showing Brexiteers wanted single market
Brillo was able to point out that none of those clips came from during the campaign but rather were cobbled together from out of context quotes from year before.
How dare Brillo not give LeftMob the traditional BBC free pass!
The next comments is a warning about today's “I`m Sorry, I haven`t a Clue” from Essex,
"Both Tony Hawks and Tim Brook Taylor did nasty little skits on Brexit, disguised under the comedy pretext."
stewgreen
Ross Lea, I was born in the 1960s. I don't think I can recall seeing a UK commercially viable tram service. The Docklands Light Railway - DLR - seems a good practical solution. The recent tragedy in South London does not appear to be a technical problem. Given the on-going Trades Union dispute on railways in the south east of England, involving staffing levels, the public may ask whether increased staffing does actually increase safety.
Electricity is clever stuff, and ideal power for inner city transport. But you still have to make electricity somewhere, and storing it on a large vehicle still seems impractical for 1 hours use, let alone the 12 hours minimum that buses/trains/trams would need. Remember that milk floats rarely did more than a 2 hour (?) delivery run, covering less than 10(?) miles.
golf charlie
@Golf "it is the marketing of battery cars that is wrong. For most people, most of the time, they are adequate and fit for purpose. So why aren't most people driving them?"
LOW RESALE value
-Range anxiety
"Only the rich can afford an expensive car with a limited range, and still have a car with an internal combustion engine for driving outside of their toy's comfort zone."
Yep typical EV customer is rich family who already
Penn Jillette spoke about his Leaf..ie He dives to an event in his Leaf whilst his wife drives the Jeep to the same place to carry the stuff, and then afterwards they might be driving to different places.
Is one person in an EV greener than on a motorbike ?
Certainly not.
stewgreen
The BBC is regularly presented as "unique" and a special case due to its charter etcetera.
I'd defend the BBC if it really tried to do honest reportage, objective reasoned analysis and acknowledged and gave space to a spectrum of viewpoints - yes... that involves some "editorial judgement" which will likely be subjective ... but what we see at the moment however is a controlling cabal orchestrating the repeating of catechisms and skewing content to align with their political aims.
If I thought that the BBC were making an effort to adhere to their charter rather than suborning it - I might even go out and pay for a license. Inevitably following their charter obligations wouldn't please everybody (me included) - but what we have at the moment is more deeply flawed and compromised than it sensibly should be.
If the BBC cannot adhere to the standards in its charter then it should be simply defunded - as presently operating - it's urine abstraction on a grand scale.
btw - a YouTube of the "Laff Box" - I think the BBC R4 comedy department have simply digitised out of copyright Charles Douglass snippets....
tomo
Don't know about fake news, RR, but there is also 'no news'.... The MSM won't report a couple of wrinkles coming out of the attendance of VPe Pence to see Hamilton: When the theatre was casting for the musical, and no doubt celebrating their diversity, advertised 'No white actors need apply'; and following Pence's appearance, Steve Bannon attended the following night. (I'd like to have been in the audience for that.)
Note: I have no problem with advertising for black actors for black characters but if you advertise for white actors for white parts you get dumped on by the liberal-arty.
Harry Passfield
Hello, Mr Hodgson. I’ve found two of the three: post-truth and fake news. The third one is a more elusive, but you can browse the You-tube site for further info on all three topics. As with all these sources, keep your scepticism levels high, as well as your cynicism, but they do make for interesting viewing.
Minty: I am sure you really do not have to be told this but, when viewing any of the media, you should always keep your scepticism turned up to 11. This is what brought you out to question the “science” of your colleagues, so do not fall into the myths that surround such organisations as the BBC – while it has long been the broadcaster of quality TV, that does not mean that it is always the broadcaster of quality TV (remember Birds of a Feather?). Kate Adie’s report on the Libyan bombings, in the 1980s alerted me to their potential bias in news reports, to have it confirmed, time and time again, ever since. I view the BBC merely as a source of information.
Radical Rodent
@stewgreen
I do wonder at the "audience" in BBC productions - subjectively imho many shows seem to me to have a limited library of audience responses - those world class production values at work as usual.
tomo
Pity about I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue. It has been the only current BBC comedy I could listen to since Brexit, probably because it was recorded before.