The Yamal cargo being cross-loaded at Montoir from the Christophe de Margerie to the Maran Gas Ulysses will be followed by another cargo aboard the Eduard Toll - this time bound directly for Grain, which it will reach in just over a week's time. Why they didn't simply divert the Christophe de Margerie is known only ot those concerned. She passed the door at Grain 2 days ago, and proceeded down the channel to the Loire, turning South instead of North for Milford Haven. More cost.

Mar 4, 2018 at 1:10 PM | Entropic man

Lamb in his 1975 book overestimated temperatures in what he called the MWP. He also lacked the information necessary to put into a global context or in a Holocene context.

As Climate Science has been cooling the past 150 years, continuously cooling them. Then it is no surprise that the cooling trend has been extended several centuries

You are the one clinging to a 40 year old idea from whichthe rest of us have moved on.

Mar 4, 2018 at 1:10 PM | Entropic man

Would "the rest of us" be 97% of Climate Science, or just a sweeping non-scientific generalisation?

Marsicek 2018

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/02/01/new-paper-reconciling-divergent-trends-and-millennial-variations-in-holocene-temperatures/comment-page-1/

Reconciling divergent trends and millennial variations in Holocene temperatures
Jeremiah Marsicek, Bryan N. Shuman, Patrick J. Bartlein, Sarah L. Shafer & Simon Brewer

Naturally, the  University of Wyoming press release is alarmingly misleading:
University of Wyoming researchers led a climate study that determined recent temperatures across Europe and North America appear to have few, if any, precedent in the past 11,000 years.

What the paper says:

"Although our results depend on a single source of palaeoclimatic data (pollen) and a single climate-model simulation, they reinforce the notion that climate models can adequately simulate climates for periods other than the present-day. They also demonstrate that amplified warming in recent decades increased temperatures above the mean of any century during the past 11,000 years."

“Amplified warming in recent decades” relative to centennial means doesn’t make the current climate unprecedented.

"Furthermore, climate models can’t adequately simulate the present-day climate."

"And they also appear to be using Marcott et al., 2013 as a benchmark."

Using flawed models proves that anything can be proved, especially with only one source of data.

EM, your point would be more convincing if we had not seen this:

So, pls DO try hard to follow up on my advice provided in previous email. No need to go into details on any but the MWP, but good to mention the others in the same dismissive effort. “Holocene Thermal Maximum” is another one that should only be used with care, and with the explicit knowledge that it was a time-transgressive event totally unlike the recent global warming.

From Jonathan Overpeck. I suspect that this sort of attitude has affected Marcott and the rest. They went looking for a flat line and managed to find it. I don't trust that sort of effort and I don't see why anyone but the gullible would.

You are the one clinging to a 40 year old idea from whichthe rest of us have moved on. Perhaps the onus is on you to show that you are the only one in step.

Mar 4, 2018 at 1:10 PM | Entropic man

You are still clinging to a 20 year old fraud, from which you would like to move on, but can't. The onus is on Climate Science to justify further Taxpayer Funding.

Wouldn't it be less costly for Climate Science to withdraw to a secure position, rather than retreat in ruins, as Napolean did from Moscow in 1812?

Marcott 2013 has hardly been a major advance in campaign history.
https://climateaudit.org/2015/01/08/ground-truthing-marcott/

concludes with :
"In geophysics, explorationists have considerable experience in working with datasets of very different quality.  Their practice is to work out from the “best” high resolution data rather than contaminate high-resolution data with poor data.  Reasonable people can disagree on precisely how to do this in paleoclimate.  However, it is possible for methods to be objectively bad and even wrong –  Mannian principal components is one example, the Marcott uptick artifact is another.  As noticed at CA, the Marcott uptick was a botched artifact of station dropout, exacerbated by Marcott’s unwitting reallocation of core top dates.  Marcott et al ought to have issued a corrigendum, but unfortunately preferred to pretend infallibility.  As readers are aware, D.C. judges have ruled that it is a tort in D.C. to question Mann’s reasoning; it is presently unknown whether it is also a tort in D.C. to question the reasoning of Marcott and other coauthors of Marcott et al 2013 or climate scientists in general, or whether it is only a tort to “question” Mann’s “reasoning”."

Lamb in his 1975 book overestimated temperatures in what he called the MWP. He also lacked the information necessary to put into a global context or in a Holocene context.

I could give you a long list of references, but will let Marcott et al 2013 and Marsicek at al 2018 stand as representatives as discussed in earlier comments. Both cover the period you call the MWP and neither show anything exceptional.

You are the one clinging to a 40 year old idea from whichthe rest of us have moved on. Perhaps the onus is on you to show that you are the only one in step.